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So do you think Ukranians should leave and let Russia have their land?
Factually untrue.
The only reason Israel was created was Europeans countries still wanted to get rid of their Jewish populations.
So they sent them to the Middle East and told the people living there to GTFO.
Edit:
Also while nouns are used for ethnicity, adjectives are appropriate for things like religion.
If they were Arabs, then they're from that area.
They may be Jewish as well. But saying anyone that's Jewish is from the Middle East just isn't logical.
There are Ukrainians in the US.
Where did the word Judah come from and where is it?
And there are Israelis here too... I know a couple that escaped after being forced into the IDF.
By your logic every human alive has a claim to Africa and can go there and genocide their incredibly distant cousins because Africa is rightfully theirs...
You're talking about stuff from thousands of years ago. Israel the country has existed for less time than the current US president has been alive. Who cares about a different ancient kingdom?
If you want to start in 1948, that's when Palestine was created too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine#British_Mandate_of_Palestine
Palestine existed, the British broke some off and created Israel.
That doesn't mean Palestine became a new territory that also happened to be called Palestine.
It was still Palestine, just missing some pieces of Palestine.
By your logic, the British also created India when they broke a piece off to make Pakistan...
The UN created Isreal as well as Palestine. Yes, there were Arabs in the area all along. The jews were there 3,000 years ago but were forced off by the Romans. TheBrits simply held the territory after WWII.
So...
That was 2,000 years ago...
Should the royal family of England also return England to it's natives?
Should they return America to the Native Americans?
They didn't seem to agree with the Irish when they wanted to kick the English out of Ireland.
Why stop at 3,000 years ago?
Why not return it to the descendants of the first hominids that set foot there? Modern Asians had to cross thru first to get to Asia, and some went all the way to the Americas.
Should we give Native Americans Israel and call it a day? Sure, they left, but by your logic that doesn't matter
Let us settle on a date. I guess not the history of an ancient land. I guess not the creation of state. What is it?
What's not to get?
Palestine has existed uninterrupted for thousands of years...
It was where Abraham first started hearing voices in his head commanding him to kill his family which launched Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
Israel was created less than a century ago and it's borders have only expanded. And they argue that they're "the real Palestinians" and claim Palestine's history as their own.
None of that makes logical sense, but it's easy to see what they're trying to do.
Reading history, this is not true.