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DeSantis rocked by Black Republican revolt over slavery comments
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I don’t understand black republicans at all. It’s just as crazy as gay or trans republicans- I wanna be like “dude, your party fucking hates you”. How do they not see it?
It's just as crazy as poor republicans, but here we are.
The poor ones think they're one Repub presidency away from all being richer, but those GOT DAM DEMONRATS keep ruining it for em.
A shame they can't afford a decent education, and choose instead to slander and libel the entire institution when it criticizes their bs
Any persecuted minority group who are republicans is just absolutely baffling to me…best I can come up with is that it’s god-level Stockholm syndrome.
I work for a company that is union. And the majority of the union members are Republicans. WTF?
They don't support it, but "I gotta get mine" is very on brand.
The republican party is the party of single issue voters. I'd bet a large majority of their base wouldn't vote for them if they didn't support their one wedge issue that they won't budge on for anything. It lets people excuse a lot of bullshit if they can just propel their personal cause forward.
There were Jewish Nazis too.
I don’t understand that either.
There were very few.
More than you would think. They believed that they weren't the problem Jews, it was those ones coming in from Eastern Europe. Hitler couldn't possibly be talking about them.
Same deal here.
Hitler wasn't Aryan. There's no instances of extreme right-wing ideology that make sense. Never was nor will there ever be
Self hatred is a hell of a drug.
I don't think they hate themselves. They just hate other things that republicans also hate. They hate poor people, gay people and trans people enough that they are willing to take some hits to themselves as long as it hits the other groups harder.
I don't know, I think that still counts as self-hatred, in a way. You have to be some special kind of fucked up to hate another group of people so intensely that you'd voluntarily wade knee-deep in shit just to shove them in down to their shoulders.
Ah yes, the foundation of the current Republican Party.
Is called religion.
Minorities in politics are always going to be experiencing a completely different live than the average person. They live in their nice big house in their gated community and probably face little to no racism irl. They just don't care.
I don't they understand just how difficult it would be for them to win. Enough people will sit out the election who would vote otherwise because the candidate is nonwhite or a woman.
Cuz they hate each other too
I have this same issue, its baffling to say the least.
Just as long as they get to hate someone too
Maybe it's a form of masochism? Maybe they miss the hatred and "wish you didn't exist" they got from their parents?
It's mostly religion. I find it strange how hard some African Americans took to Masters religion.
This is like, a really patronizing comment? As if black people cannot form their own beliefs, the only way a black person could be christian is if "master" told them to.
I mean, isn't that how a lot of Christianity came to the black community?
Every tragedy has an origin story. A lot of Slave owners felt it was their moral duty to civilize their property by teaching them Christianity. The tragedy is the death of whichever West African religion was stolen from them along with their freedom and agency.
That's what happens when children are taken away from their parents and indoctrinated into Christianity when they're too young to know any better. Same with Indigenous Americans. Erase their culture and their language and make them Christians by taking their children away and raising them the white way.
Because Christianity played a major part in helping black people overcome slavery and united them together?
Also all Civil Rights movements in America started in the Protestant Church
Awesome!
Could you tell us how many of the slave owners and their supporters (so in favor of slavery) were christian?
I can tell you 80% of black people are Christian right now, so you're insulting 80% of black people and their religious belief
How would you like it if I insulted Jewish people and their belief? Muslims?
Oh, so christianity gets a pass then? Just because you start to wave a despicable race card in our faces? To use people of color as a firewall for a religion of pure hate is unteal and tells me all I need to know about you. But wait, you have shown us more!
Jewish and Muslims , there we are. You are in no doubt a heartbeat away from going racist and fascist. Not a huge surprise for a person supporting christianity, a religion at the forefront of most heinous acts in history.
Glad you have dropped the christian mask and shown us what christians do when you show them their cult was in the wrong.
Please do not belittle other peoples religious beliefs and customs. Thank you.
Everyone in the United States of America is free to practice their religious beliefs, it is against the ideals of Basic Human Rights to deny anyone that right, especially here in America. If 80% of Black Americans are Christians then I believe it is only appropriate, and in accordance with the ideals of a free democratic society, to respect that belief, not to dehumanize Black people for choosing what they wish to.
The problem is that religious people don't adhere to this. I'm fine if you want to follow a religion or whatever, but don't try to restrict my rights because you're offended (not you personally, just the language of the example).
Did you just try and play some sort of ‘big dad tells you what you can and cannot do’?
Off your high ground with you, off your false castle. You have NO moral high ground to stand on. I will belittle christians all day long, this right is earned by centuries and centuries of despicable acts of inhumanity perpetuated by that religion. How dare you, how dare you to try and take some moral high ground knowing fully well you stand on the graves of millions and millions tortured and killed by that lovely christianity.
And then that clumsy attempt to try and see if you can bate me into some statement where you can play the race card. How pathetic.
My point is that religion, and especially christianity, is bad. You uninvitedly and all on your own pushing people of color to the front in order to fake defend them is the REAL racist move.
Do you often feel the need to defend black people? Are they not able to defend themselves, hmm?
You tried to ‘daddy knows better’ me and belittle black people by keeping pushing their stats when none was even suggesting. You are a racist, plain and simple.
Please do not attack other peoples religious beliefs. Thank you
How about I stop when christians stop attacking others? Lets see if christians can live up to th words of their jesus.
Hint they wont.
By the way, I am done with you as you keep saying the same thing over and over and never once made genuine case for religion other then ‘daddy telling’ others to stop. You clearly are a troll.
I will block you because you are useless.
I only see one hateful person in this thread and it isn't the guy rightfully pointing out basic human and constitutional rights whom you are trying to frame as a fascist.
It's very simplistic to blame religions for heinous crimes committed by humans over centuries. Crimes have been committed in the name of every religion on earth.
But in every religion there are countless good-hearted people who try hard to live up to their ideals. There is much more to religion than just bigots.
So please: Stop your hatespeech.
This is not hate speech and using that as defense for a religion that has so much hate poured over the innocent.
I know you guys think you are defending something noble, you are not, you are defending a know n and documented cruel entity, it is unreal to see. But then again, religion makes you stop believing your lying eyes. Its like talking to cult members.
And the message I get constantly from you and others who defend the cult? To please stop. Like any cult, no argue or defense or explanation on accountability, just stop and move on.
Hey, guess you turn a blind eye to the pastors and clergymen who, to this day, keep raping little kids and get full cover drom the cult leadership. Bet you do.
Multiple arguments have been made: Basic human rights, the need for a differentiated view on religions instead of sweeping condemnation of a single religion whatsoever, etc.
With no word I or the user before me excused any crime committed by christians. So why imply that we did just that?
You know nothing about our beliefs. We could be agnostics of even atheists. Yet you insinuate we are like cult members in a direct ad hominem attack... Why?
You can condemn crimes committed by religious people all day, perfectly okay. But it is hate speech to discriminate against the beliefs of ALL members of a religion no matter who they are of what they did.
If you think that truly all christians are hypocritical and evil, you are being extremly unfair. And if you think that the world would be a better and less violent place if only religions didn't exist, you're delusional.
I will keep it simple and it will be the last thing I will respond to as I know from experience it is like talking to a wall when cults are involved.
You are in a ‘club’ of likeminded people, that ‘club’ did unspeakable acts against humanity. Does not matter who in the club did it. You keep supporting and defending that club. This ‘club’ keeps violating people (think rapes of children by pastors to give you but one example). You are by association just as guilty.
Now lets name that ‘club’ something extreme, to drive this point home : Nazis
If you are ‘in that club’ you do net get to whitewash the holocaust now do you? Why do christians get a pass on this type of thing?
No need to answer, I know you will keep defending the club that currently and in the past violated so, so many of our community.
Start believing people and your own eyes instead of the fantasy being told to you.
Actually we have the freedom to openly mock religious beliefs. As long as the Christian Facists don't completely take over the country.
At some point you stop humoring people when they bring their imaginary friends with them to adulthood.