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What about Atrocity Trump? They point at Biden, but never the disaster trump would ensure.
Biden is the one supporting slaughter right now, and Biden is the one with power to stop it.
What would protesting Trump do?
Honestly? It would keep him hopefully from having a close enough election to contest it, game it, and potentially evade punishment for the crimes he's actually on trial RIGHT NOW for committing. Then there is precedent for punishing a president and guess who can be next?
Biden does not sit on a button that says "lower gas prices" or "defund Israel" or "hold trump accountable" or any of a whole variety of things in the first place. Can he do more? Sure. Would I trash him because everybody has to do the exact right thing with the exact right issue every time or I'm going to take my ball and go home to let the other guy win and escape punishment for the first time ever? Fuck. No.
Get precedent for punishment, then punish them all.
The US by its own law must not send weapons to war criminals and actors preventing US humanitarian efforts Israel is doing both. All Biden has to do is uphold US law. Why are you letting him get away with the same shit that Trump did?
See last sentence of previous comment.
Nobody has to get away with anything, the only trick is not chasing every squirrel in the park to make sure nothing gets done.
Trump tells Israel to "finish the job" in gaza,
https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b
You should try knowing what you're talking about some time
Read my comment very carefully. Where did I say "Trump would do less harm?" Exactly nowhere.
Protesting Trump for what he will probably do if he makes it to office rather than the sitting president actively supporting genocide is hilariously ineffective.
You should try knowing what you're talking about some time
It's implied in a two party system kiddo
No it isn't, lmao. Who the fuck protests someone who can't fix the problem at hand? Do you want to protest against Hitler for also being worse than Biden as Biden assists in slaughtering children?
"Kiddo," you're deeply unserious.
You know who's currently president and is currently sending weapons to Israel right?
I'm so glad Trump is running because it means Biden can do literally anything and every single voter can just scream BUT TRUMP TOO and suddenly Joe is absolved.
You know who wants to be president and will do the same thing, right?
That's completely unrelated. Biden is the current president, and he must answer for his decisions.
If Biden is concerned he'll loose to Trump over this, THEN STOP FEEDING THE GENOCIDE. It's that simple.
Wouldn’t it be nice if trump answered for his.
You are entirely missing the point here. You seem so deluded by factionalism that you can’t see this as anything but a democrat vs Republican issue.
This is a HUMAN GODDAMN LIVES issue. A literal genocide is happening and you’re playing the whataboutism game. “Whataboutism” is used way too much as a phrase in discussions, but this is a textbook example of it.
“Biden is contributing to genocide.”
“But trump is a criminal.”
“Okay…but people are literally being slaughtered and starved on the US’s dime and the president is still voicing support in the face of the atrocities we are all witnessing.”
“But trump-“
Just stop. No one here likes trump. We understand stacking domestic chaos on top of this issue is no good. But we are faced with no good option right now. The entire argument for voting for democrats over republicans is usually “but we can push the democrats through shame to do what is right.” THAT IS WHAT THIS IS.
We’re not playing politics. We’re playing try to save some goddamn lives with civil disobedience.
You make it sound like that's something you'd expect would happen out of his own volition?
Biden?
How is that relevant to this? Are people not allowed to protest now because "other guy would be worse"? That's an actual authoritarian tactic.
This isn't saying "Trump would be better". This is saying "Biden supporting a genocide is unacceptable".
Woaah. Hold up there cowboy. Are you suggesting we hold politicians responsible for their policy?
Yeah, we should all pretend everything's fine so that after the election happens we can keep sending bombs to do genocide.
I personally fully agree with the image created by the protestors AND plan on voting for Biden.
"You should vote for a person enabling genocide because the other candidate hypothetically would have done worse in an alternate reality, maybe." Real high iq take there.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905