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I heard a great point recently about how the Soviet Union was just willing to accept shortages and not try to obfuscate them. The current model of distribution will not permit shortages to be obvious, so the failures of the supply chain will just take the form of things randomly being obscenely expensive
The way we stock our grocery stores with the expectation that a third of the food will just go to waste is unbelievably unsustainable, but it's a hell of a marketing gimmick. Feasts and cornucopias and all of that used to be special because they were rare - but in America we show you that image over and over until it becomes your expectation, and not surprisingly Americans wind up consuming way more than other cultures do as a result.
People need to stop expecting every fruit and vegetable to be available fresh year round. I shouldn't be able to get fresh berries in the middle of winter.
Fresh fish too is such a killer. I’m sorry, but do not buy seafood if you live in the Midwestern United States, especially anything live or fresh. Frozen is slightly better, but even then think of what goes in to making that happen.
The Midwest has the great lakes. Too bad we killed a lot of the stuff in there.
Local is always going to be the best option, so it is a shame we absolutely devastated local environments to ship food halfway across the world
All of the seafood in the Midwest has been frozen and thawed back out at the grocery store. Fresh fish in the Midwest and even near the coast is a lie. 85% of all us fish consumed is imported, and it was frozen before it ever got into US territory. Many fishing boats freeze them on ship, even. The only way you can chance upon "fresh" fish is if it's in season and near the coast you're buying in.
Isn’t most of Iceland’s diet fish?
Maybe, but Iceland is surrounded by ocean filled with fish and most people live on the coastline. That’s much more sustainable than buying live clams/ fresh fish from a chain grocery store in North Dakota
Just you said the Midwest. And whilst Iceland is surrounded by water, it’s competing on the global market.
Hang on where is the mid west? Presumably not the middle of the western world…
The Midwest they are referring to is a region of the land-locked interior of the united states. Generally refers to the states in the region comprising of: Nebraska to the West, Minnesota to the North, Ohio to the East, Missouri to the South, and those that lie between.
Oh. Seems like it would be wise to say “mid west US”…narrows it down slightly.
The region is actually called "The Midwestern United States/The American Midwest" but longform is so out of fashion these days
Is the gag that Iceland's in the middle of "the West"?
Well, Europe is in the middle of the west, roughly. Iceland is one country I can think of that is dependent on fish.
I see where you are coming from and that’s my bad, I’ll make the term more specific.
I was using a colloquialism common to the United States which refers to a group of landlocked areas hundreds/thousands of miles away from the ocean
They had 3 wars against UK for fishing rights. Won all three too, since they threatened to quit NATO and USA immediately reprimended Brits.
We’ve fucked ourselves over with fishing rights, there was no point.
When we were doing Brexit, the pro Brexit politicians got the fishermen on their side. But they’d sold fishing rights to Europe.
As i see this Brexit was one hell of a hoax. Sure, fuck EU but from the outside of UK it clearly looked as because EU was not neoliberal and imperialist enough for them.
its fresher flash frozen anyway.
Most westerners are of an “me first” attitude. You seriously expect them to accept the fact that they just can’t have something?
They're going to have to if anything is to be done about climate change. (I do not expect anything to be done about climate change.)
Same. I’m sure the rich will be fine, until it becomes obvious they’re utterly useless.
many certainly are cucked by their political economy into believing with absolute certainty, despite all evidence to the contrary, the current and wildly unsustainable configuration is all that's possible.
pretty sure if they can swallow "Trump v Biden = democracy" and "no money for healthcare, infinity money for war" they can wrap their minds around "no vine ripe tomatoes in January".
We have Labour versus Conservatives. I have no sympathy. Sorry.
no one asked you to. you stated westerners can't accept limitation, and then I pointed out how they do, constantly, and with great ease.
sorry you're having so much trouble keeping up with your own argumentation.
I was taking the piss.
How can you expect us to give up our treats!?!?!? You must hate freedom.