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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Not against you personally, but your premise sounds like a weak bothside-ism that justifies the cycle of violence. "He did first" kind of argument. "An eye for an eye makes us all blind." as Ghandi put it.

The most rational and objective bothside advocacy is the two-state solution. It seems like the mainstream neglect this and does not think outside the box. I understand that there is so much bad blood between Palestinians and Israelis, but if both sides realise they are blinded by rage, they could emulate the Northern Ireland peace agreement that ended the 20 year cycle of violence between the Irish nationalists and British unionists. Many scholars and activists from both Israeli and Palestinian side advocate for two state solution and a Northern Ireland-style peace agreement. It is just a matter of ordinary people to look past the rage. Israel is there to stay and advocating to rid Israel is like trying abort a baby. And Israel stepping on Palestinians is repeating what the Nazis did to them and thus Israel could not claim the higher moral ground.

There has to be a united civilian will to accept that both sides are here to stay, like the Irish nationalists and British unionists have done. But both Israeli and Palestinian sides have internal divisions and many support their own radical groups representing their own beliefs.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

While I get your understanding from my comment, I don't know if I'd call it both-sideism as much as I would neither is innocent. Either was quite capable of taking steps to stop this before it happened.

If it wasn't for the fact it had happened before in Ireland I would 100% say there is no way the differences could be reconciled to a permanent two-state solution - but clearly there must be a pathway to peace. Unfortunately I don't hold much confidence in it actually happening and more will continue to suffer because of it.

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