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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by morninghymn@hexbear.net to c/vegan@hexbear.net

One of the most common talking points that I hear from people who are advocates of leather, especially those who work within fashion, is that leather is simply a byproduct of the meat industry. The claim that it is simply a by-product of the animal agriculture industry is used as their justification to buy leather products because they think that they're just the waste of the meat industry and that they are up-cycling material that would otherwise be thrown away. What these proponents of leather never address though is that these so called "by-products" are just another way in which the meat industry profits and that leather would not exist in the first place if it weren't for the raising and butchering of animals! Like I am genuinely baffled that people believe that the meat industry doesn't proliferate its existence through the selling of things like animal skin and the other remains that aren't flesh. Of course this doesn't even touch on the environmental impact required to produce leather, which includes that of the meat industry that raises the animals (which has a horrific impact already) plus the additional awful production practices like chrome tanning that are extremely common in the leather making process.

Also, a thing that especially irritates me in the TikTok video that I linked is the creator equating faux leather with plastic leather or pleather, when faux leather encompasses more than just pleather and contains leather alternatives that aren't made from plastic! That seems like something you should know as someone whose job requires a large knowledge of textiles/materials but I guess he for whatever reason doesn't know that or at least doesn't mention it

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[-] Angel@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I'd rather not endorse something that stems from the meat industry's existence when I actually want the meat industry abolished in the most harsh way possible. What kind of fucking talking point is this?

[-] morninghymn@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

yeah it's silly, I think it's just a poor attempt to make themselves feel better about how awful the animal agriculture industry is, especially since these people don't usually want to put an end to the meat industry that provides them with their leather, they just want "better conditions" for the animals being slaughtered or to replace slaughterhouses with "happy humane family farms" that allow animals to frolic around before they're sent to their death. the other extremely common argument for the usage of leather is that it lasts a very long time so as long as you use it for life it's sustainable, or people will also try to hold on to using leather products by buying second hand because you're not directly supporting the leather industry. but of course we still shouldn't be wearing the skins of butchered animals and by continuing to do so we're signaling to others that's it's morally permissable and that animals are still just commodities/objects to be worn

this post was submitted on 09 May 2024
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