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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago

I'm not going to argue with a supporter of a genocide.

[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Not a supporter of genocide. I just realize there's a lot more going on than just that

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

If you support Biden then you are supporting a genocide that US is currently involved in. Period. The fact that you can't even admit this just further underscores your utter lack of morality and intellectual honesty.

[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Ok, but if I don't support Biden, the other guy is going to continue doing the genocide. Maybe even at a worse pace. So what's the answer than? Voting on every other decision

Genocide sucks, but America dug this hole for generations. It's not all on Biden

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Change comes from outside the ballot box. Vote for Biden, sure, but join and support the ongoing protests forcing his hand currently. Historically, meaningful change has come from collective action.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

Your actions are what matter, and if you're going to vote for the guy who is conducting a genocide then you are complicit. No amount of hand wringing will change that.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Your actions are what matter

Not voting is also an action. And if your refusal to vote allows someone to take power that will not only continue the genocide, but also start more genocides, then you are complicit. No amount of hand wringing will change that.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, not voting for either genocidal scumbag is indeed an action. To frame what's happening in US as the fault of people who refuse to vote for either scumbag is the height of idiocy. No amount of liberal sophistry will change that.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

It's the trolley problem with a single track: you can pull the lever and the trolley will run over 5 people before it stops, or you can not pull the lever and the trolley will run over 10 people.

If you're standing beside the lever with your arms crossed refusing to pull it, saying "the fault is on the person who tied the people to the track. Getting involved makes me complacent." Then yes, people are going to blame you because even if you didn't cause the problem there is something very easy you can do to make it less bad.
You can't save all 10, but you can save 5. So you do what you can, and then you also go after the guy who tied the people to the tracks.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

Learn how resisting actual repressive regimes works instead of making a clown of yourself here. You're not saving anyone here. Biden is the one doing a genocide as we speak, not Trump. But I suppose racists like you don't even consider Palestinians to be humans, so you won't lose any sleep over that.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

"anyone who disagrees with me is a racist!"

Good talk. Engaging with you is definitely worth while...

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Nah, it's just people who use a trolley analogy to dismiss an actual genocide they're supporting who are racists. Clearly you place no value on the lives of Palestinians that the party you keep telling people to vote for is massacring. At least have the decency to own up to your beliefs openly little fash.

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