Learning French in school is functionally the same as learning Latin (hexbear.net)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by ButtBidet@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Like everybody in France under 45 is fluent in English, and who the fuck wants to talk to an older European. Every single French colony without exception is phasing out or has phased out the use of French as France was such an awful colonial power. Did you know that Eclair is pronounced aey-clare? This does nothing for me. I guess some people want to read Les Miserables in the original Foot Mold Language, just like random people enjoy reading Ovid or Cicero in Catholic script.. And just like Latin, fuck that everything has genders and complicated conjugation.

I swear, the French teachers in school were trying to impart the vibe that if we know the French language, French women would have sex with us.

I refuse to defend any facts that I asserted in this essay.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I do not understand why French is put on the same level as actually useful languages. We've got a continent and a half that speaks Spanish right next door, and >40 million Spanish speakers in the country. There's a billion people who speak mandarin. 400 million who speak Arabic (kinda). Hell there's more indigenous language speakers than French speakers here.

Actually I do understand (it's racism).

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

You can sing songs written by Sankara. sankara-bass

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Don't forget that ASL is the third most used language in the United States! No point in focusing exclusively on spoken languages, right?

In any case, I find it questionable to talk about languages in terms of "usefulness" like that, trying to measure "usefulness" based on an objective "number of speakers minus percentage who speak a language I already speak": there are plenty of reasons why a language can be personally useful to somebody, plenty of reasons to want to learn a language aside from how many new people one can talk to; and heck, learning one seemingly useless language can be great for building the skills and knowledge for taking on another language, or for becoming more flexible in using one's own first language.

That being said, you're not wrong to call the pedestal that French is put on compared to other languages a product of racism... Actually, I'd argue that a lot of foreign language education isn't even meant to get you proficient in that language, but rather more for the sake of, like, standardized school tests. Thus the languages that are put on the highest pedestal are just going to be the ones where the infrastructure already exists for getting butts in seats and tests on desks.

[-] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 15 points 5 months ago

Hey, viens t'en au Québec! On a de la poutine, de la bière, des manifestations comme en France, du hockey, et de la neige en crisse!

[-] quilter@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The beer is good. Demos are on another level.

But there are the laws against wearing hijabs and turbans. . . . and all the other racism.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

bUT YOU COULD VISIT QUEBEK!

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Or rural Louisiana, mon ami

[-] regul@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Actual French speakers in rural Louisiana are few and far between. It was official govt. policy until the 80s to prevent Cajun and Creole kids from speaking French in school.