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Sofia "Buff Girlfriend" @sofiabuffgf

Installing a bidet at home was life changing but unfortunately it's transformed pooping on company time from a small proletarian victory into yet another grueling humiliation of inadequate working conditions.

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[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Curious why you feel its absurd people need to be told this? Even in the the study you linked, they note in the discussion

It is of great surprise to find that detection of fecal bacteria was prejudiced against the bidet toilet users.

Still a concerning study to me, since I'm a habitual bidet user. Fortunately I don't need to worry about vaginal microflora. Furthermore, I could only find this one small study that shows correlation (not necessarily causation), so I'd be hesitant to immediately regard bidets as less sanitary than wiping, especially for men.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fecal bacteria were detected in 50 of the 268 cases (18.66%), 46 cases in users (92%) and only 4 cases in non-users (8%). Contamination by other pathogens was 4 to 6 times higher in users than in non-users.

It sprays shit around. I guess to me, that just seemed obvious. But I hear what you are saying to me. It even surprised the researchers, so why would I be surprised that other people find it surprising.

I take your point. It seemed very obvious to me after installing one, but I'm being rude by assuming knowledge. Thank you for correcting my attitude.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

That's not very nice to say. I'm not being obtuse -- the writers of the article you linked it even said themselves they were surprised that the bidet-users had more fecal matter. I don't poop on my bidet, and regularly clean it. You'd think that the jet of water plus wiping would get more fecal matter off your butt rather than wiping, alone. Dang. I'm just trying to have a conversation.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I corrected that comment almost immediately, and I apologize. You are absolutely right, I was being defensive.

Edit: I'm not an asshole, I swear. I saw that you were honestly engaging and I felt bad immediately and revised the comment as quickly as I could.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I gotchu, it happens. No worries. You've definitely piqued my (admittedly gross) interest -- I'm gonna do some more research after work and I'll look out for your link.

Good luck on zoom!

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There are several more studies. That was just the one I was mentioning because it relates to serious health concerns for pregnant women.

For men, perhaps less of an issue, but I'm just generally in favor of keeping fecal matter as localized as possible and cleaning myself regularly. I would never take a shower where the shower head sprays up from the floor, you know what I mean? I wash top down, paying special attention to the stinky and the dirty areas, and I clean myself with the idea that everything I'm washing off is going down, into the drain. Not up, back onto my body.

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