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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You dont get those changes by just blindly voting against the Republicans. You have to actually pressure your candidates into supporting what you want. Companies and lobbiests are able to do this with giant sacks of cash. Normal people do it by protesting and making demands of their officials to force a response. Showing nothing but contempt for anti-war protests is always a bad look for a president running for reelection.

Biden has all the leverage on Israel to make them stop the killing. He can threaten to pull military aid, send in US forces to distribute humanitarian aid, or put sanctions on Israel. All of those would stop the killing, making people angry at the US response willing to vote for Biden, paving a path for his re-election. Why are you so against him forcing Israel to stop the genocide if it is his only path to victory?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

Because it's not his only path to victory, and it's not even certain that it IS a path to victory. A majority of DEMOCRATS, much less the general public, still approve of the current level of support to Israel or support INCREASED support to Israel.

Do I want Biden to pull out of Israel? Yes. Do I understand why the strategic political reasons why it's not being done, other than Biden being an old dinosaur? Also yes. Do I think that welcoming Trump into the White House will improve the matter? Fuck no.

[-] Floey@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

Those voters who approve of funding Israel's genocide should really suck it up and vote for Biden even if he slashes funding. After all they aren't crazy "tankies" who would dare withhold their vote because they don't approve of what he's doing.

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[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 1 points 6 months ago

Then they deserve what they get!

If the majority would rather side with supporting genocidal actions, rather than peace, than America deserves to burn

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Tell me you're white and know you're not gonna be the one who actually burns without telling me you're white and know you're not gonna be the one who actually burns.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

You're saying that you are ok with Israel slaughtering Palestinians so long as you can continue your standard of living. "Never Again" doesn't have a secret clause saying we shouldn't stop genocide if it means people may be harmed in the process.

You don't want Trump to take over the US and institute his fascist policies? You should be leaning on the Democrats to actually try and stop him, rather than going after those who are trying to actually stop fascism as it pops up.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

"We think any amount of genocide is unacceptable, that's why we think it is imperative to threaten the democrats with the possibility of letting more genocide happen here too if they don't stop supporting genocide, and shut up it's not supporting genocide when we do it because we're right!"

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

The Israeli government has said they want to remove every Palestinian from Gaza and the West Bank. There is literally no more genocide that is able to happen right now

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

Then they deserve what they get!

If the majority would rather side with supporting genocidal actions, rather than peace, than America deserves to burn

Thanks for going mask off.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -1 points 6 months ago

Yeah mask off.

To all the people supporting genocidal actions, we do no give a fuck what you think.

When you decide that you are not ok with sending more bombs to continue killing children then we can talk.

Until then I hope you all experience exactly what you want other people to.

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