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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

No I'm not going to throw away my chance to reduce suffering on pitching a fit.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago

It’s not pitching a fit to recognize that both of the two major parties candidates are unacceptable.

There’s a big difference between pitching a fit and saying “genocide is my red line.”

What’s your red line? What would cause you to vote third party instead of Biden?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago
  1. A third party would need to have a feasible chance of winning even a single fucking state, and the literal only chance of that would be if every single Democrat and Republican spontaenously and simulteanously dropped dead right before voting day.
  2. The amount of harm caused by Biden would have to be equal to or greater than than the harm caused by Trump, which is demonstrably not the case.
[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago

So no amount of parallel awfulness would prompt you to reject both parties? As an example, if the atrocities being visited on Gaza took place in America would that be enough?

[-] neobunch@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

You won't get an answer, these people's script is they have enormous latitude in calling people names, moving goalposts, and generally as much punching left as they can muster, but under absolutely no circumstance can they say -in any way, shape or form- that they won't vote for the blue team.

[-] ezterry@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

We are in a winner takes all system, It has limitations, Its very stable with 1, primary party, its possible to have 2 primary parties, its while not impossible, very very hard to have more primary parties.

Sure its possible particularly in a state for a new party to replace an existing one.. However most cases of this the new party becomes part of or replaces an existing parties leadership. However if you really want more parties we need something like instant runoff elections, Im very disappointed in how much push back on that has happened where its been attempted. (or a parliamentary system.. but i dont see that fitting into the US system)

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

You don’t need fundamental change to the system to not vote for the president committing a genocide. You can just pick someone else. That’s the point of a vote.

this post was submitted on 18 May 2024
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