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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Sure, and I bet you think the NSA only spies on foreigners.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

No. But thak you for the contribution of your strawman. You gonna try to actually respond to anything I said? Or just going to continue to damage your position?

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The idea that the US gov't doesn't propagandize the US people is just so laughable and observably false.

The most popular non-sports video game series is US propaganda. The most funded Hollywood movies, Marvel et al, has the military literally approve the scripts beforehand.

Reddit's current Director of Policy worked the Atlantic Council and had no experience in social media before working for Reddit and purging it of popular leftist communities. After October 7th, they put out a message banning war footage or propaganda showing the Palestinian perspective.

Notice how Reddit is overwhelmingly pro-Ukraine, anti-russian, anti-Iranian, anti-chinese, and pro-zionist? Literally zero difference between what the major subreddits support and what the state department would want them to support.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

The idea that the US gov't doesn't propagandize the US people is just so laughably and observably false.

I never said they didn't. But thank you for showing that you're not here in good faith and are just being disingenuous. It lets us all know not to bother talking to you.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Oh fuck off with that, I read your post, the point you were making was that the US propaganda operations must not be bigger than other countries because it is "piss poor" if it exists. I gave you evidence of its existence and its effectiveness.

Respond to the core point, or any of the evidence that the US has bigger propaganda operations directed at the US than any other country could possibly manage and quit squirming.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

Wow I'm surprised you even admitted your dishonesty. Leninists usually don't do that ever. They'll die on the hill they'd made for themselves rather than adjust their beliefs or admit fault.

You could have just said that without making shit up and being dishonest. I know the reason you didn't. But you could have done that. The reason you didn't though. You did not give any evidence. You cited two correlations and called it a causation of a separate 3rd thing with no evidence. There is as much evidence to support my statement as there is the support yours. Make of that what you will. But don't go trying to convince anyone that you have any facts or evidence LOL.

Over the last century the United States has pushed a lot of propaganda at home and abroad that is a fact and I never disputed it. They aren't alone on that either. I just think it's hilarious that people think that just automatically translates into the online space. They've been shit at it. And on their back foot the whole time. The internet has poked more holes in it than everything before it. And they are far more vulnerable to foreign misinformation themselves then their modern contemporaries.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

When someone restates the points of your arguments, that's not dishonesty.

This is useless, nothing I say is going to get around your quibbling.

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