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Do 9-5 jobs still exist in the U.S.?
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this post was submitted on 31 May 2024
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So... they knew the value of their own time and didn't overwork when they didn't have to?
Most office workers could probably learn from that mindset.
This worked the other way NOT in favor of the workers. Sat down at your desk at 7:03am even though you're not customer facing at all? Expect to be called into a conference room with your boss and your bosses boss about your attendance.
Do you work in IT and need to work off-hours to perform work requiring downtime until 2am? You better be at your desk at 7am on the dot or you're going to get written up.
Have a doctors appointment at 3pm for an hour? You have to take vacation time for that.
There was this really odd notion that if you weren't sitting in your chair typing, you weren't working and would get questioned by bosses.
Office workers would learn (or be reminded) about how hellish it was to work a minimum wage job with zero flexibility.
That is 100% not how you framed your initial comment. It was very much focused on how the workers weren't going above and beyond to work when they didn't have to.
Sounds to me like they were reacting to a shit situation in the most appropriate way they could.
That wasn't my intent to communicate that, but on a re-read, I can see how you came away with that.
That was it exactly.
I mean... you didn't say anything else, how else could you have meant it? You even complained that them leaving on time was inconvenient when someone else dumped something in their desk after working hours.
I was pointing out one part of the oddness of an office organization that chose to operate strictly from 7am-5pm. If you're asking why I didn't explain every aspect of every perspective, I'll say it was a 30 second post on the internet, not a comprehensive peer reviewed study of workplace behavior.
I admitted my initial explanation had ambiguity that could lead the audience to arrive at an unintended conclusion. I'm not sure what more you want from me over that mea cupla. There's no deeper motive on my part to mislead besides my admitted initial carelessness.
Inconvenient to the organization, not to the worker. I was pointing out that the organization had created the situation working hours (strict 7am-5pm), yet was suffering because of how rigidly it enforced the rule. The org was shooting itself in the foot.
Then you're a chump for not doing it during business hours instead, rest of the company be damned.
They were still having 2 hours/day stolen from them, though.