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It’s crazy to me that there are still a ton of buildings with asbestos in them. Can we please have a functional society with a government program to tear down and replace asbestos filled buildings
That doesn’t sound like an optimal use of labor even if we had a functioning society. Leaving sitting asbestos lie is pretty stable and doesn’t sound like a high priority.
The problem is with known and unknown unknowns. It's stable until a mole man burrows through the wall or a car hits it or a fire breaks out in the old structure. You can't renovate it or service the things inside the walls. A tornado or heavy wind storm, both possible here, would cause similar damage. Wildfires have destroyed an entire town in the same area without any warning, and one happening here would leave a big pile of asbestos in the open air. To me it's like having radioactive waste or chemicals that can't be mixed in that room. Perfectly okay until suddenly it isn't.
I work maintenance for a school board with over 80 schools. Every single one has Asbestos containing materials.
Don't get me wrong, it's a massive investment to remove it all. At the same time though most if not all of the water pipes in the country were once made out of lead. If we don't remove those pipes then any town can become Flint, Michigan if the water chemistry changes. There's a public health imperative to clean it up before a freak accident happens in one of 80 schools in your district alone.
It's a slow process for sure and if someone has to nail a picture to a wall they have to call my boss with 2 days turnaround time for a test
Yeah, it sounds weird, but critical support to asbestos in highly specific occasions.
At least a mandatory marking of every wall containing asbestos so mole man can be contained
Turns out Mohammad Atta was just trying to get rid of asbestos in New York
9/11 was just a public demonstration on the failure of asbestos as a fireproofing material that got out of hand.
Popping a VHS into the slot labeled "The Brave Little Tester" and its footage of the second tower getting hit. Goddamnit I thought this was the cartoon about talking appliances and now the entire classroom is crying.
The only materials you can safely assume are 100% NOT ASBESTOS are wood glass and metal.
It is fireproof, waterproof(amphibole asbestos is anyway), resists electricity, is the best insulation material on earth still used in space applications, it's lightweight, it comes from the earth as Asbestos it needs no processing other than like grinding it up, it's indestructible, easy to work with, as it "deteriorates" it keeps its fibrous shape just gets longer so it lasts forever.
If it didn't kill you slowly it would be the best material known to humankind.
The cost to safely abate the least dangerous forms of asbestos are massive. Not even just in money. The amount of poly plastic needed, the wasted coveralls, the duct tape. It's an environmental nightmare to make a high risk enclosure but even in a moderate risk you're using like 3 coveralls per person per shift
Wait until you learn about lead paint, and lead plumbing, and leaded AV gas, and leaded soil, and leaded wire coatings.
Love living near a small airport where petit bourgeois fucks can spray aerosolized lead on me from their planes. Hope they don’t Harrison Ford into my (landlord’s) house.