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This wall was to the supply room with all of the uniforms and PPE. The building was constructed in the mid-20th century so it turns out it's full of asbestos. Thanks mole man.

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 80 points 5 months ago

Over 80% of all mesothelioma cases are caused by asbestos

Asbestos fibres are 10x thinner than fibreglass fibres (N95 is useless) and can stay airborne basically forever, we spray what's called a "lockdown ecapsulant" in the air that basically just grabs every fibre and bit of dust in the air then glues it to the floor.

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

Asbestos fibres are 10x thinner than fibreglass fibres (N95 is useless) and can stay airborne basically forever, we spray what's called a "lockdown ecapsulant" in the air that basically just grabs every fibre and bit of dust in the air then glues it to the floor.

My big fear with this is that it's almost certainly flooding the HVAC system now, but there's no official posting beyond this sign and the office staff seem to think it's fine. Who would I anonymously contact in the US for an inspection? Is that regulated at the state level or by the EPA?

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

Always start with OSHA for anything in a workplace

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

I live in Canada unfortunately so idk

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[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago
[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

Asbestos, much like jigsaw in the movie saw, doesn't kill you. It makes your body kill itself just by being indestructible. Your body sends cells to break it down, the cells die and turn into scar tissue. The asbestos just wants to live in your lungs.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago

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[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago
[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

A company mining the vast majority of vermiculite at the time, an ostensibly safe loose fill insulation product, "accidentally" mined an asbestos vein at the same time so now all vermiculite is considered asbestos contaminated because as a loose fill product you can't get an accurate reading of the concentration of a foreign substance

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago
[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

Asbestos was open pit mined with dynamite meaning our atmosphere has a small amount of ambient asbestos fibres still and meaning that a clean air clearance for abatement is not 0 fibres/cc it's 0.02

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

This is like listening to a goopy-doopy gory details crime podcast that's been pared down the bone to be 15 second chunks.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago
[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

If you eat asbestos, it gets into your bloodstream and lodges itself wherever it feels like. You may think "who would eat asbestos?" But in my training I've seen pictures of old school insulators sitting on asbestos blocks with hands covered in asbestos based mastic eating a sandwich bare handed.

Bonus: there is a town in Quebec that only VERY recently changed its name from Asbestos to something lame idk what honestly. They stopped mining asbestos in 2019 or maybe 2016 i forget

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[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago
[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

The world trade centre building's structural steel had sprayed on fireproofing made from asbestos up to the 50th floor I want to say. Making the 9/11 attacks the largest asbestos exposure in history lasting days and days because of how long the dust took to settle

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

sicko-no

All your PPE is considered contaminated now. Was it just the drywall mud containing or was the insulation behind the wall containing too

I know so much about asbestos

Moleman has now begun the process of transforming into a being of pure scar tissue. Takes about 20-30 years

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

The supply room and everything in it was immediately blocked off. But now we have neither uniforms nor full PPE for our outdoor jobs with hazardous conditions.

I'm not sure where the asbestos was exactly, only that it's a giant maintenance garage built in the early 1970s. They probably heavily fireproofed the whole structure. It's nasty shit but I kind of want to make a little hole in the wall to get some for one of those magic Roman bags that cleaned itself.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

If you want to be more Roman just wipe your doodoo ass with a vinegar soaked sea sponge. Avoid the magic bag of doom.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

I exclusively tradshit in public bathrooms with no stalls, but asbestos bags show the brilliance of Greco-Roman culture. Imagine the convenience of tossing your clothes in the fire after a long day of watching slaves murder each other for sport. They come out perfectly clean without any washing or drying. Why would the gods make this magic if it wasn't good for us in moderation?

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

I was going to argue with you but after drinking a lead flagon of wine I can see the merits of your argument. Praise the gods. If it wasn't good for us why would they put it here for us to use it? If the gods want to fuck with us they'd do something much more direct like turn into a goose and bang our wife.

[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

And to be clear, banging my wife isn't a total deal breaker

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

One guy actually observed the slaves mining asbestos dying of respiratory problems more frequently than other slaves back in like year 100 or whatever

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

If the fireproofing spray is asbestos that'll be a high risk removal so expect to see orange plastic on your future

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 5 months ago
[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

They're breathing the cleanest air of anyone in the 1960s. The asbestos is like a force field protecting them from plutonium, lead, and cigarette smoke.

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

Oh. The blue asbestos is the worst. walter-yell

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

@Acute_Engles@hexbear.net

EDIT: oh shit we're in the same thread where you were talking about this so you probably saw it. ignore me

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

My wife: what are you typing so fast on your phone

Me: someone mentioned Asbestos on the internet

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[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

You can't even have two doors anymore because of woke.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

See I don't know. Apparently the patriots are still in control and you can spontaneously decide to destroy a wall in an office without any kind of oversight. The woke mafia is persecuting asbestos traditionalists but I think I can still dig into a clean wall if I get my own office.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

Where the fuck do you work that employees can just start demo'ing the office?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

Critical support

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

One of the last places you'd expect for that to be the case. I'm trying to start a pollinator garden and it looks like I have to go through multiple departments and potentially different committees just to put a sign in a garden bed which saves us money.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

oh so all of the sudden it isn't cool to tunnel?

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[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

Lmfao why, just why. I can't imagine just being like ME WANTT DOOR and tunneling through a wall of a building i don't own. And he tunneled into the supply closet?? did he not... know what was on the other side of the wall???

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

I think his new role involved overseeing the supply room but I don't know who mole man is/was, just some admin. The walk between the two normally takes 20 seconds.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Ironic, appointed to oversee the protective equipment closet when in fact the closet needed to be protected from him. Truly poetic

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

It’s crazy to me that there are still a ton of buildings with asbestos in them. Can we please have a functional society with a government program to tear down and replace asbestos filled buildings

[-] davel@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

That doesn’t sound like an optimal use of labor even if we had a functioning society. Leaving sitting asbestos lie is pretty stable and doesn’t sound like a high priority.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

The problem is with known and unknown unknowns. It's stable until a mole man burrows through the wall or a car hits it or a fire breaks out in the old structure. You can't renovate it or service the things inside the walls. A tornado or heavy wind storm, both possible here, would cause similar damage. Wildfires have destroyed an entire town in the same area without any warning, and one happening here would leave a big pile of asbestos in the open air. To me it's like having radioactive waste or chemicals that can't be mixed in that room. Perfectly okay until suddenly it isn't.

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

Turns out Mohammad Atta was just trying to get rid of asbestos in New York

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[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

The only materials you can safely assume are 100% NOT ASBESTOS are wood glass and metal.

It is fireproof, waterproof(amphibole asbestos is anyway), resists electricity, is the best insulation material on earth still used in space applications, it's lightweight, it comes from the earth as Asbestos it needs no processing other than like grinding it up, it's indestructible, easy to work with, as it "deteriorates" it keeps its fibrous shape just gets longer so it lasts forever.

If it didn't kill you slowly it would be the best material known to humankind.

The cost to safely abate the least dangerous forms of asbestos are massive. Not even just in money. The amount of poly plastic needed, the wasted coveralls, the duct tape. It's an environmental nightmare to make a high risk enclosure but even in a moderate risk you're using like 3 coveralls per person per shift

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[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago
[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Mole Man follows his instincts. Mole Man has lymphoma.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Worked with a guy who didn't want to wear PPE because it was uncomfortable. We were demolishing a building and he was sawing thru old insulation tubes. We had to wear PPE because the tubes were full of asbestos. He didn't wear PPE, he understood what asbestos was. I still can't figure it out.

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

i'm pretty impulsive sometimes, but arbitrarily making a hole in the wall is beyond my powers

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