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More efficient manufacturing, falling battery costs and intense competition are lowering sticker prices for battery-powered models to within striking distance of gasoline cars.

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[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee -4 points 6 months ago

Please, actually read my comment, and tell me how I'm celebrating Chinese imperialism by saying it's hard to do as bad as western imperialism.

You guys throw the word "tankie" around to anyone remotely skeptical of American imperialism and have the balls to call yourself leftists... Shameful

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Fair I retract my statement, but to be fair you do still come across as unconditionally celebrating the collapse of American domination without consideration of what replaces it.

American and Western domination of the world needs to stop but the culture in those places is a lot closer to realizing that and affecting change compared to China doing the same. Let it collapse from within not because a different emperor takes the throne.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee -3 points 6 months ago

Sure, the culture in Europe and America is just about to topple imperialism from within, that's why we're assisting to a process of radicalization towards the extreme right wing in all the western world. You have a half of the US voting for a rapist, racist felon (the other alternative being Genocide Joe). You have increasing extreme right wing in Europe, with Melon winning the elections, LePen getting high results, and growing extreme right wing parties such as Vox or AFD.

Imperialism isn't something imposed by the people, it's imposed by the elites. It's a mechanism of elites to perpetuate and increase their power and wealth. It's not an unintended consequence of capitalism, it's its very nature. And sadly those elites won't give up their power without extreme events taking place, look at countries that had revolutions and removed those elites such as the USSR or Cuba, and the conditions in which these revolutions happened. The empire won't fall from within until the conditions aren't right, and the conditions could, for example, be a decrease in power over the globe thanks to the elimination of a unique US-Europe hegemony in the globe to be substituted by something else, whatever it is. It's not gonna be pretty, but reality right now isn't pretty to most of human population.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yes and my point is that a revolution within the US whether violent or otherwise is the proper path towards replacing American imperialism. China isn't coming in to save us and they're further behind in achieving those goals from within. The United States is not yet as bad as China in terms of enforcing monoculture and limiting radical ideas.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

tell me how I’m celebrating Chinese imperialism

Everyone knows that if the Good Democracy Imperialism of America goes down, the Bad Authoritarian Imperialism of China goes up. Only a Good Guy With Imperialism can stop a Bad Guy With Imperialism. Its called the White Man's Burden, sweetie. We're the only ones who can stem the tide of the savage hordes.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

This is a stupid reductive parody of my point which is that with all its faults the US is closer to a radical change than China is. I'm interested in "workers of the world unite" not just "i want to be under new management"

Do you think China is closer than the US to a post-national egalitarian society?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

the US is closer to a radical change than China

Western Chauvinism is one hell of a drug.

Do you think China is closer than the US to a post-national egalitarian society?

Pick your metric. Gini Index? Purchasing Parity? Household debt? Home ownership rate? Union membership? Democratic participation rate? Waste per capita?

There are countries higher than China on all of these measures. But the US can't come out ahead on a single one.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

how about being OK with other cultures? how about letting mosques exist?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park51

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Xi%27an#Modern_usage

How do you think the US would respond to a population of 25M Muslims? We can't even stomach Deerborne, Michigan.

[-] jorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

When facts fail, there's always memes

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