Lightcone is so outraged at the Guardian article that they have started a prediction market about it (manifold.markets)

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WE DEMAND A CORRECTION TO uh various minor nitpicks

also we swear we totally didn't get your email

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I am having a lot of fun on Manifold, but if the team insists on inviting eugenics speakers to conferences, its probably time for me to leave :-/

What exactly is your objection to people exercising their bodily autonomy to implement voluntary eugenics?

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[-] dgerard@awful.systems 19 points 6 months ago

habryka on LW:

(To be clear, for LessOnline we didn't invite anyone who I think even remotely fits that description, I think? It's plausible we missed something, but like, actual racism is totally the kind of thing that would have caused me to remove someone from the "blogs we love" list, if it was part of their blogging.

Manifest runs a much stronger "just invite people who are popular and share interests, with less regards for why they are popular" policy, which I think has a bunch of stuff going for it, but definitely produces a very different selection of speakers as I think is apparent from looking at the invited speaker lists.)

the long list of race scientists are not "actual racism" ok dude. this is in reply to someone saying that it was these precise people that kept him from attending

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol this is not the great anti-racist response they might think it is.

"We would never invite (especially blatant eugenics level) racists to LessOnline! The Manifestival on the other hand... (conveniently advertised on the LessOnline homepage and discount tickets if you go to both!)"

[-] mawhrin@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

i would think that for habryka “actual racism” means something like open calls to genocide, not, you know, actual racism.

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't think even that does it. Richard Hanania, one of Manifest's promoted speakers, wrote "Why Do I Hate Pronouns More Than Genocide?".

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 17 points 6 months ago

i remember reading on a Right Stuff forum a guy detail why even different varieties of white people genetically couldn't get on and then say "I'm not even racist." at that point i realised there were no racist statements in the english language

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