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[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Okay keep going. What has to happen before the milkperson delivers the milk?

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

He wakes up, wakes the cows up, lines them up, does a lil prayer, washes them up, milks em, feeds em with half green half dry grass, waters half the milk down cuz corrupt, hands it to me and takes my money

These places dont have the number of cows "other countries" do, even the scale ones arent as bad as ive seen on 'how its made' or documentaries

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Okay keep going. What has to happen before cows produce milk that can be extracted?

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its a yearly thing, baby is born, baby stays for 5 or so months, then when they are good on grass, they are either sent off to another cow keeper, farmer if ox or kept-is it that hard to comprehend cows living peacefully in a country that considers them sacred?

Why must I explain cow maintenence in India when all i wanted to know was why vegans dont consume dairy?

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why must I explain cow maintenence in India when all i wanted to know was why vegans dont consume dairy?

If you'll humor me, I'm walking you through a few of the reasons.

Its a yearly thing, baby is born, baby stays for 5 or so months, then when they are good on grass, they are either sent off to another cow keeper, farmer if ox or kept

As you describe, typically, the calves are separated from their mother, whose excess milk is then harvested and consumed by humans like you. The male calves are culled, eaten, or (rarely) used for breeding. This alone is fundamentally exploitative and vegans like me believe supporting it is morally reprehensible. But if that isn't sufficiently questionable for your scruples, in order to produce the separated calf (and stimulate milk production), the dairy cows are regularly forcibly inseminated. When they are no longer productive, they are culled and their carcasses are deconstructed and sold for as much profit as possible. Obviously cows cannot consent to any of this.

s it that hard to comprehend cows living peacefully in a country that considers them sacred

If that country allows the proliferation of an industry that profits from the extraction of products oftheir bodies, yes.

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

Your whole second point about culling and forced insemination falls off in Outside the cultures that enjoy its consumption.

The last point stands for every food consumed.

Look it up instead of arguing with me? A person online who was only interested in vegan food choices and not a discussion about dairy practices in the west?

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

forced insemination falls off in Outside the cultures that enjoy its consumption

This is simply false cw: forced insemination of cows in the indian dairy industry

Look it up instead of arguing with me?

First, I actually did look it up. Second, why didn't you?

A person online who was only interested in vegan food choices and not a discussion about dairy practices in the west?

lmao YOU asked why vegans don't eat dairy!

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In addition, cows have to be tricked into letting their milk down to be collected by humans. Without their calf present they'll hold their milk and nothing comes out.

In short, it's theft.

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

cows have to be tricked into letting their milk down to be collected by humans

jfc I did not know that

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