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anyone that tries to say star trek has "gone woke" or some stupid shit like that clearly isn't a fan of it and just trying to rile up stuff. I mean come on... how can someone say that and have watched the shows LOL
Yeah, its not like Star Trek suddenly went woke, its been woke. First ever TV kiss between mixed races was between Kirk and Uhura. Scandalous.
That's actually a common misconception. Not to downplay the significance of what Shatner and Nichols pulled off to get around the various censors (ruining alternate takes and such), but many TV shows did it before Star Trek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_interracial_kiss_on_television
Shatner is on that list multiple times. That man had an agenda.
He likes his coffee how he likes his women.
To go?
easily within reach?
Ground up in a bag in the freezer?
Mostly Asian?
I think it was the first one that was both broadcast nationally in a primetime slot and where the actors were easily identifiable as having different ethnicities on a tiny TV screen. Would explain the misconception.
I think it certainly was the most noticeable of anything shown on American TV at that point. But the British had us beat by years.
I stand corrected! Thanks for the info, I've believed that since 7th grade when I first learned of it from one of my teachers who was a massive Trekkie.
Late 30s here- it blows my mind that we don't have to look very far into that past for the Shatner/Nichols smooch to be remarkable.
It's uplifting to me. This present world can be ugly, but it's comforting to think that the kiss is almost mundane when compared to the present.
A win is a win!
It's literally like 80% of the show's concept. The idea was to hide morality plays behind wacky alien makeup.
Not to mention the first black woman officer and the first black/white kiss.
...in a drama series. This was the first:
That's Lynn Fontanne kissing Sammy Davis, Jr. at the 1965 Emmys.
As far as the first interracial kiss, that does have a star trek connection- Desi kissing Lu in 1951.
On top of that, Shatner himsellf kissed France Nuyen on the Ed Sullivan show in 1958.
https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2019/09/11/not-the-first-interracial-kiss-on-tv/
I cracked up a bit at this. That was a great write up, I didn't know before about Desilu's involvement in making that kiss happen and their earlier milestone, that's quite cool.
Specifically why I said black/white. and peck on the cheek isn't consider a "kiss" by most people. (although it probably caused a stir). This was also right in the middle of the black civil rights movement which made it that much more risky.
Okay then, you'll have to go with Sammy again and Nancy Sinatra:
That would have been in 1967. Plato's Stepchildren was a year later.
On top of that, you have to further specify that this is only on American TV, because Gordon Heath kissed Rosemary Harris in a production of Othello on the BBC in 1955.
Do you think insulting a mod will go well for you? And congratulations for proving the above meme incorrect about Star Trek being the nicest fan base.
Showing you that a passionate kiss between a white woman and a black woman happened on British television over a decade before Star Trek is not being pedantic. You were just wrong.
Rule 2 applies to everyone regardless of circumstance. You've violated it twice now. Time for a break.
I will give you the same warning I gave them. Civility rules apply to everyone. Please do not violate them again.
Also, why do people insist on showing that the Star Trek community is not, in fact, nice?
Okay, you were warned.
Holy shit my boy Shatner they're both so beautiful ๐
Duet and Drumhead hit so hard. Incredible writing, phenomenal acting. I miss that in Star Trek.
I mean compared to TOS it's gotten woke, but TOS was like extremely woke for the 60s