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The Kremlin and the DPRK join forces... thoughts?

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[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

This is deterrence, it just so happens that the United States of Amerikkka doesn't like it when you limit their options from mass genocide, to "infantry invasion".

Does deterrence work? It does until it doesn't. The only country that has ever used nuclear weapons against another country is America, so we'll never know until it happens again. And when it happens again, there won't be a society to sort through the evidence and ascertain blame.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is a good time to remember that Americas nuclear war strategy is to be the largest standing civilization after the ~2 hours of nuclear holocaust. Unironically.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

which is fundamentally impossible, so they are lying to themselves.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

It’s not that it’s a lie, it’s just that that’s basically the only plan you can really come up with other than nuclear disarmament. We have to remember that this is a military plan and militaries all over the globe do not function like computers, they function like Rube Goldberg machines.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

The military does what it knows how to do, make plans that kill people. The type of people and experts that should be farthest away from ever interacting with weapons of this caliber.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The radiation alone, plus the toxic byproducts of otherwise inert plastic, and other chemical agents polluting the soil and water, let alone inhaling and consuming things into our bloodstream would just destroy our ability to maintain a population, let alone a civilization proper.

I'm familiar with the SIOP plan. I just got done reading Annie Jacoson's Nuclear War: A Scenario. And she is very thorough in listing all of the catastrophic byproducts. The military also knows the consequences of even a single bomb.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Most modern nuclear weapons are not very radioactive. Hydrogen bombs do release a bit of radiation when they first explode, but it dissipates really quick.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

The problem is that nuclear bomb targets include nuclear reactors in their lists. Also the toxic chemicals that would burn up and then fall into the top soil and fresh water sources.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Ah yeah for sure. The world would definitely become toxic, and with all the nuclear power plants and reactors going without maintenance or getting directly damaged, there would be a shit ton of radiation in many places.

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I occasionally feel relieved to remember that there is almost no chance most of our nukes still work.

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