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I'm mad, so here's a post about Warhammer 40k
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The closest to a good faction 40k has are the Tau, even after the decision to give them a caste system and some vague notion that the ethereals are using pheromones or some shit to rule over their society.
There were traces of that from the beginning, but it was also implied that it was actually nothing and the Imperium was seeing things that weren't there because they're ideologically incapable of conceiving of a functioning society, but we know how media literate people who treat lore like encyclopedia facts tend to be.
I've only recently gotten a bit into WH through lore videos while I'm going to sleep so my knowledge is pretty superficial.
The Tau are hopebright and good and everything bad about this is Imperial propaganda and the Smurf players can just cope and seethe about it. For the greater good!
The grimdark part of the Tau empire is that despite being very morally good, they'd still be completely wiped out if any of the other factions considered them a threat.
Also, while this is less confirmed, it's also implied that the Tau's belief in The Greater Good could eventually wind up creating a new warp god leading to the destruction of their civilization. The tau are the equivalent of a squadron of fresh recruits surrounded by entire armies of people who hate them. That's why they still fit in the grimdark universe. They're the plucky, good civilization with no real shot of surviving.
What kind of chaos god would they make? I wouldn't be terribly opposed to a lord of altruism or comradery, though I don't know too much about the Tau.
You fundamentally misunderstand the Tau. They're not altruistic, they're just the least-worst civilization. They're closer to a space Roman Empire than they are to communism. They'll conquer you, put you in a pseudo-slave caste, and collect taxes. They can only claim to be a lesser evil because every other civilization's default response is genocide.
Probably something to do with absolute control. The Greater Good is an authoritarian philosophy in which individual citizens don't really have any rights. They have certain cultural freedoms of course, but no right to self-determination. For warp-sensitive races that believe in this philosophy, it would show up as a desire to dissolve the ego into the whole. This could create a god which seeks to create a galaxy wide hive-mind of sorts. A sort of warp based Tyranid empire composed of multiple races which would subject entire planets to experimentation for the greater good.
Ah yeah, that makes more sense. Fits the setting much better.
They're practically nulls, how the heck would that work?
Yeah, but the humans and other races they seek to integrate into their society aren't. They'd either have to do some necron-tier shit and destroy the souls of their citizens or they'd be at risk of humans creating a new chaos god.
Another option is they may decide that warp-sensitive races are too much of a risk to the galaxy and adopt a genocidal attitude for the greater good. That would be thematically appropriate for Warhammer 40k. A bad encounter with the effects of the warp leading to them abandoning their previous principles. Kinda like how the Horus Heresy affected the Imperium of Man.
Even then they colonize planets and give the choice of "join or die". And if you join, you start at the bottom of their caste system at just a barely teeny tiny step above slavery.
The only good faction in 40k is Chaos, because they are hell bent on destroying the entire universe, and the entire universe clearly fucking needs to be destroyed because there's no good anywhere in it.
Actually the Necrons are kinda good too, kinda sorta ish.
Smh, of course you liberals wouldn't support the based Genestealer Cults and their AES (Actively Embodying Snackrifice)
Still wanna do a story where a Genestealer cult wins, but in the last battle with the Imperial forces their Patriarchy gets slagged and they somehow figure out what the Tyrannids really are, and now have to figure out what the fuck to do about the onrushing hive fleet that's going to eat the revolution they worked so hard to win.
Have a small collection of GSC and that's basically my army's lore
It's become easier to excuse since my dog ate my patriarch model
Genestealers always be tryin' to steal my toothbrush though so I don't see how they're the good guys
Pff ofc you'd take issue with that. One of the foundational tenets of Communism is sharing of the toothbrush. Plus, have you seem how many teeth our gene-comrades have? To each according to their needs!
Now face the biomass dissolving pool please.
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This is just posadism
Yeah the original concept was supposed to be a utopian communist society and then they remembered its a grim dark setting and made them neolibs.
Utopian communists with a caste system...
I think that was something that was added later in their conceptualization before they decided to do away with the idealist and equitable society part, I assume because most Warhammer fans would have shit themselves in rage at the thought.
Nah, Necrons are horrible.