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I wanted to find out why the fuck they invited him:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2024/06/15/detroit-church-hosting-donald-trump-for-roundtable-faces-criticism/74093920007/
And it's not like he supports trump or hates Biden:
People have serious issues and want to be heard, but Biden is too busy dining with George Clooney in California than campaigning in Michigan....
And like, am I the only one that forgets Hillary's victory lap and focus on big donors instead of boots on the ground campaigning being one of the reason we already got stuck with trump for four years?
Why are we just doing it again? This is 2016 all over but people are too scared of hurting Biden if he continues that they wont ring an alarm bell.
Edit:
Someone finally gave me some info
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-battleground-state-black-voters-two-big-speeches-morehead-naacp-georgia-michigan/
After a NAACP speech in May he stopped by a local business in Detroit
We need more of that, glad to hear he's doing some already
Biden with George Clooney in California:
oh no, sorry. That's in Warren Michigan in Feb 2024 source
Biden with George Clooney in California:
oh no, sorry. Thats in Detroit Michigan in May 2024
Biden with George Clooney in California:
oh no, sorry. Thats in Michigan where he was supporting Union workers in Sept 2023 source
Err, if your memory is anything to go by....we're not? You're painting this false narrative as a strawman saying Biden hasn't been in Michigan and he was there LAST MONTH!
Rofl. Way to turn a thread on Trump getting caught faking an outreach to the black voter in a black church into an anti Biden/Harris smear.
BECAWSE BOTH SIDE BAAAAAADDDDD
Damn right! The GOP wants to overthrow 240 years of democracy and Dems have been known to use the wrong brand of mustard.
It’s why there here.
givesomefucks does this in every single thread that remotely mentions Trump or Biden. Either he's got an agenda, or absolutely no life. Or both, the two aren't mutually exclusive. I find their constant attempts at division to be exhausting to read.
Linkerbaan is the same way. It's so obvious they have an agenda.
Biden and recently Harris have been to Detroit and he will probably be back before then.
Trump is endorsedby convicted felon and former mayor Kwame. A person who literally stole money from the pockets of the poor to enrich his life in one of America's poorest and wrecked city. Guess what? A Biden supporter became mayor and has helped give Detroit hope and pride they haven't had in a while.
So fuck Trump and fuck Kwame Kilpatrick.
This happens a lot unfortunately.
I'm not saying trump would be good, trump would be fucking terrible.
I'm saying he's doing a better job at voter outreach, and the quoted comments illustrate how low of a bar Biden needs to clear to get voters to vote for him.
Can you link when Biden was there?
The only thing I'm getting was hubknobbing with the wealthy at an EV show where he got to drive an electric Corvette and that was like two years ago
If he has actually been doing voter outreach in Detroit this cycle, I'd love to hear about it. Would make me feel a lot better he's actually going to be at trump.
Edit:
Had to Google him, he's a disgraced former mayor of Detroit that trump let out of jail.
He still owes Detroit millions, I'm not sure why his endorsement of trump matters to (or surprises) anyone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick
Although he is a good example of what "blue no matter who" gets us. Everyone seems to have hated him immediately, but it was him or a Republican so he could do whatever he wanted for years...
If you didn't have bad faith, you'd have no faith at all
What does any of this have to do with Biden?
See, both sides bad
Biden was in Detroit on May 19.
He also visited Saginaw, MI in March.
And Warren, MI in February.
Just fucking admit it. You want trump to be president. I see your bullshit in every thread. Fucking admit it and stop pretending to be doing anything besides supporting fascism.
Again, I ask you, since you hate Biden so much, who is viably capable to win November rust’s in the ru bing right now as an alternative?
All you need to do is name someone that has a fair to good chance of winning the White House.
One name. That’s ALL you need to do.
Otherwise, just stop man. Because constantly spreading bullshit about someone when the focus isn’t even on them is clearly illustrating your purpose here.
Got called out for your bullshit here, I see. Biden is spreading it around, as other posters have said, touring this massive country of 300+ million fucking people as best as one man possibly can. And while I'm not thrilled with everything he's done, I'm still voting for him. Why? Because it's the best thing to do. I should do it. And so should you. Fuck off with the bullshit already. November is a choice between two visions for America. One gets us in line with other countries by reining in Student Loan payments, improving our infrastructure, and generally making progress fast enough to affect us in this lifetime, while not giving the Right extra motivation to go hate-vote our guys and gals out, and the Centre more motivation to stay home, vote third party, or even join the Right in voting our guys and gals out. The other...is fucking Project 2025. Go look that shit up if you don't know about it. Apparently 2/3rds of the country doesn't realise how much of a threat it really is.
I don't expect a civil answer but:
Can you provide a source for him doing voter outreach in Detroit then?
I tried your link, but that's some blog thing. Not a source for Biden in Detroit.
Edit:
Seriously, I'd be really really happy to hear about it...
I don't know why you think I'm trying to offend Biden by saying this would help his campaign. If someone does provide a link about recent campaigning in Detroit (or any other poor disenfranchised area). I'd be a lot less worried he's gonna be able to beat Trump.
I don't know why so many people think questioning Biden's campaign strategy means I want him to lose.
It probably doesn't help that you had this interaction I'm replying to 50 minutes ago while ignoring this reply to you from 13 hours ago? (link and pictures below)
https://lemmy.ml/post/16961097/11704724
Apparently I've blocked that account at some point in the last year.
So I never see anything that account says.
I've got a couple instances blocked too. But with a blocked instance you see comments but don't get notifications.
Like, you're from lemmy.ml, and I blocked that instance a while ago. So if you reply, I won't notice unless I happen to come back to this page and see it. I only noticed this one because someone else made another reply about the same time you did.
I didn't know that would happen when I blocked .ml, I was just tired of accidentally wandering into a .ml sub. Kind of a happy surprise tho.
But my point is, don't just assume what you see on Lemmy is what other people are seeing. Especially if they're not your instance.
Fair, but I frankly find your original assertions rather thin given this evidence (which would likely have come up in a quick google search)
It makes it easy to believe that your goal is a Trump presidency, not fair criticism of Dems or Biden, regardless of whether this specific post was hidden from you. I doubt they did any deep sleuthing to come up with those photos and articles.
Edit: ddg search limited to 2024: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=biden+visits+michigan&t=ffab&df=2024-01-01..2024-06-17&ia=web
I use duckduckgo rather than Google.
You can try for yourself and see what happens when you search "Biden Detroit" it's just from when he drove that EV Vette.
Now, had I narrowed the search down to only results from 2024, I probably would have seen that.
But I didn't. I'm killing time when I have a free minute here and there. I assumed that it would put a recent visit on the top.
It could very well be that I've blocked the few that are on Lemmy, but I can't remember the last time I saw a pro-trump comment on here.
Like, there was a conservative sub on another instance, but when a mod told me that accusing someone of racism was racist, I reported their comment for racism.
Because logically, accusing someone of racism for accusing someone of racism is still racism by their own rules.
I got a 3 day ban from my own instance for that somehow. Which seemed a little excessive for trying to prove a point. So obviously I blocked that community and don't see it anymore.
But anyways, I think with the lack of actual trump supporters on Lemmy, people go looking for an argument. So when I talk about stuff like:
If I'm wrong and Biden has ever done _____ people want to turn it into some kind of "slam".
There's just not enough trumpets for people to argue with here.
People are just angry and want someone to take it out on.
In all seriousness, were these not your words?
That whole blah blah blah George Clooney thing is damn near a quote of my maga brother in law, but setting that aside, I don't really think that is the same tone as your madlib.
Edit: Quoted the wrong madlib.
Edit2: I've gone way deeper than I intended in this discussion. I think we get where each other stands, and that's good enough!
People replying to you aren't being petty, you carry yourself in a very aggressive way and I don't think you realize it.
You made up a narrative without any evidence to back it up, people corrected you with references, but you ignore them because you've blocked any view that causes your blood pressure to rise.
People are responding to you like this because you present yourself absurdly and then defend it absurdly.
One of the few posters I honestly think is a troll, I'm just not sure if you realize it or not.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/05/19/remarks-by-president-biden-at-a-campaign-event-detroit-mi/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/05/19/remarks-by-president-biden-at-a-campaign-event-detroit-mi-2/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/05/06/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-during-the-nationwide-economic-opportunity-tour/
Thanks!
The name of the shop let me find an article
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-battleground-state-black-voters-two-big-speeches-morehead-naacp-georgia-michigan/
After a NAACP speech he stopped by a local business and did do some voter outreach
You're welcome.
So is it that you don’t trust government sources?
Nope, but if you clicked the link it was just a transcript of what he said.
Which is important and usually better than an article
But I was specifically looking for information about the event, which a transcript doesn't provide.
But at the top of the page, it does mention the name of the location. Which was enough for me to find the article.
That's why Biden has spoken at dozens of churches.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-tells-billionaires-ll-keep-taxes-low-50-million-fundraising-gala-rcna146748
[Trump tells billionaires he'll keep their taxes low at $50 million fundraising gala]
Money?