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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Really, if you replace "gender of the person" to "gender of the noun", ChatGPT is correct.

It's people who can be little more picky about pronouns and stuff

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Precisely. It is “el género no binario” or “la persona no binaria”. It has nothing to do with the person, just the nouns. As “binario/a” is an adjective, it has no gender on its own.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This legitimately trips up learners. How if the noun is female, it's correct to use feminine articles/pronouns/etc regardless of the person's gender, even if you know they're male. (or vice-versa).

That and plurals defaulting to male.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Just be careful, because the person can be the noun, then the adjective takes on the person's desired gender.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

plurals defaulting to male.

Except when referring to a group of women. Like “Dos profesoras”

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

It might be, you know, hear me out, that "grammatical gender" is a historical misnomer caused by linguistics initially practically only looking at Indo-European languages, which tend to have three noun classes with the word for "woman", "man", and "thing" all being in a different category so they became known as feminine, masculine, and neuter, with words assigned to them pseudo-randomly via phonetics. But really noun classes are a much more general thing, Bantu languages have up to 20. Persons, fruits, plants, locations, such things.

At least in Indo-European languages it's mostly about ease of reference: "I see a cup and a table. She is broken". Assuming that cup is female and table male (as in German) that is a very clear and concise statement.

[-] ItWobblesAndItDangles@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

As someone currently learning, this is really useful to know

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

And if the noun is a person's name? Then how do you determine whether to use the masculine or feminine version of non-binary?

[-] Censored@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I think the default or mixed gender plural is the masculine io ending. Them's the rules of Spanish, as I was taught.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The current proposal is to use an “e” ending. “mi amigue Charlie es no binarie”.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

it's incredible that you can frequently make chatgpt correct by changing some of the words to make it correct.

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