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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago

The Internet hatred for furries always bothered me. I'm not into it, I think it's weird, but so what? I think BDSM is weird too, but we don't treat people into BDSM like we treat furries- as if they're some sort of disease. I've met a few working at sci-fi/comic cons over the years and they've always been really nice, decent people. They just have a kink. Lots of people have kinks.

[-] FirstPitchStrike@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's the fact that furries tend to bring their kink public. I have not consented to engage in your sex games. If he showed up to a ceremony in leather and a ballgag no one would be ok with it, but the fur suit is the equivalent and I'm expected to applaud.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

the fur suit is the equivalent [of] leather and a ballgag

I mean, no. It's really not.

I do get what you're saying and generally agree otherwise. That one was just a bit much.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I agree. I’ve seen furries in public and while I find them odd, I never saw any of their costumes as inherently sexual.

[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

They do, though, and therein lies the non-issue.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

except they don’t though, where are you coming up with this?

say someone is attracted to women, right? is every female body they see gonna be viewed exclusively through a sexual lens?

some people get kinky with ropes, are those inherently sexual too? where’s the line?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

bring their kink into public

But it's not a kink for them.

[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago

The fursuit is the equivalent??? I'm actually laughing rn people think this???

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You sound like the kind of person that wants to ban drag story time at the libraries because "kids shouldn't be exposed to someone's kink"

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So the distinction I feel here is that women are people. If a man wants to dress like a woman, sure, most people can interact with women in public, whatever. If you want to call them both, broadly, a form of cosplay, then drag is a costume that doesn't fundamentally change much. Animals aren't people.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I mean, Halloween is explicitly a cosplay event which subverts social norms. I think it's pretty disingenuous to conflate Halloween with typical daily interaction

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

furry meet ups are explicitly a cosplay event which subverts social norms. i think it’s pretty disingenuous to conflate people with hobbies with sexual deviants.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Oh sure, meetups are one thing. I'm only talking about out in public.

[-] Pizza@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A big part of this misconception is actually from That Episode. You can actually google the phrase That Episode. No need to even specify the show, just those two words are enough (but the show is CSI). There's a bunch to read into if you'd like, but the important bit is that a big part of public opinion - which has only recently begun to change, and only in some parts of the internet - comes from That Episode's portrayal of furries

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean if someone gets off by not hurting or interacting with you then your consent isn't important. What happens in someone else's head is theirs. How they act toward others is important. Feel free to be skeeved out, tho.

[-] Salami456@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

I blame the astroturfing early on. The furry community never really overcame the weird allegations from their first major convention. It also doesn't help that people think furry is JUST a sexual thing.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago

Imma level with you chief: I would think it was less weird if it was JUST a sexual thing.

[-] Pohl@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

“I like to wear a cartoon animal suit when I go to the grocery”. —> weird, but you do you I guess.

“I get into some wild and depraved shit when I’m horny” —> me too buddy, me too.

[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 26 points 1 year ago

And many replies here are people hating on furries, and people actually thinking fursuits are primarily a sexual thing, this is wild lmao.

From someone actually from the community, fursuits are NOT a sexual thing for the VAST majority of furries, and should not be treated as such. Can't believe I still have to say this.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Echoing what pugjesus said below, it would be easier to empathize with if it were a sexual thing. Sexy times have gotten weird, especially with the modern internet and the specificity of porn. Most people could imagine how a fursuit might spice up things in the bedroom, not to mention the anonymity of wearing a mask. But few people understand the desire to wear a fursuit for day-to-day activities. I imagine it would be too warm and uncomfortable, and I wouldn't get any joy or comfort out of it.

Personally, I'm on the live and let live team. I don't have to understand your lifestyle or your hobbies, nor do I feel the need to justify mine. But that's probably why you have to keep explaining it to everyone.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

My kid is into the whole Furry scene. She makes the art, she’s learned valuable skills working on the suits and things.

Here’s the thing though. She doesn’t wear a fursuit for “day-to-day” activities. She does this stuff only with friends online. It’s just a creative community working with each other and building on each others work. I don’t get it, the appeal that is. It’s silly to me.

Most of the people she talks to are into drawing and creative type stuff. They’re musicians and artists from around the world. They have this odd thing in common that gives them a reason to create something familiar, quite often, with friends.

It isn’t her whole personality, it’s just a part of it. A social part even. It’s something to give them a sense of community and belonging.

I’m not a social person. I don’t have close friends and I don’t have any interest in sharing hobbies with other people, so it’s super foreign to me as a person on almost every level.

I just think people have serious misconceptions about what it is they’re doing. They’re just roleplaying and goofing with friends while being creative.

Sure, there’s a seedy side, but people make Simpsons porn for fucks sake. The difference in how we feel about that is that we all know the Simpsons and we know that’s not what it’s actually about. It’s just a few degens making weird shit. That’s the deal with furries too. A few degens make it sexual or make their whole life about it.

It’s goofy, but they’re having fun and meeting people.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much for providing your insight to the discourse!

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Hey, you’re welcome.

It bothered me bad when my kid started getting into it because of all of the bullying those folks get.

She’s a teenager and she’s having fun. She’s learned to draw and sew because of it. I haven’t seen anything even remotely worth my concern. They create characters and stories and just have fun. She’s learned to use 3D modeling software and serious art software. I got her a decent drawing tablet and she draws things for the kids who can’t draw. She’s developed some serious skill as a result of her interest in the stuff.

I’m for it. I don’t get it, but I’m for it.

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

if only all parents could be as supportive. keep up the good work friend 💖

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

you know, funnily enough i was actually encountering less porn on yiffit’s local than i was lemmy.world for a while

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just like claiming to be part of the fursecution. It's just always tickled me as a term.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Furries are odd fellows, but they ~~steam a good ham~~ make a good cooling suit.

It ain't for me, but I do somewhat respect that they have a hobby they're all-in on.

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

we don’t treat people into BDSM like we treat furries

I mean, unless they ask for that.

[-] RaspberryJam@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Right on, sibling

[-] wheelie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sure they're all nice and great people but I can see the other side, comparing it to BDSM it would be like going to work in a gimp suit.

[-] Braydox_ofAstroya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

One its an internetism and 2: things like rainfurrest https://youtu.be/GmULc5VANsw

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