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submitted 4 months ago by Kuvwert@lemm.ee to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Centralization is bad for everyone everywhere.

That bring said... I just moved my homeserver to another city... and I plugged in the power, then I plugged in the ethernet, and that was the whole shebang.

Tunnels made it very easy. No port forwarding no dns configuration no firewall fiddling no nothing.

Why do they have to make it so so easy...

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 56 points 4 months ago

The bigger trouble is creating a CDN has a stupidly high barrier to entry. You literally need your own data centers across the world, your own server infrastructure, the man power to manage it, etc.

You could try to host it on a cloud provider but you’d go bankrupt even quicker. Unless someone were to try to build a co-op run CDN, it’s just not gonna happen without a profit motive and a large amount of capital.

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That’s true. The bizarre paradox of the centralization of edge infrastructure is real.

That said, the other edge-lords (haha) could offer similar functionality, but they chose not to.

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

I once realized so many of my favourite businesses were cooperatives. I started thinking of what other co-ops I could start and grow. The excitement faded once I realized it would have to not be about the money.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 11 points 4 months ago

Coops are still about the money. They're about saving money by sharing resources with fellow workers/consumers, and maintaining democratic control over the company. You're not going to get rich from a coop (without embezzlement), but you and your coowners will be cutting out the middle man. Obviously, it only makes sense for industries that you're heavily invested in.

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Car making without the tracking bullshit!

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel like something like https://www.storj.io/ is on the path to what we would want/need?

There might be some additional requirements for a true CDN to ensure data is closer to where it's needed and in as many regions as needed though with the right amount of bandwidth. The data gets stored all over the place, but that doesn't mean its optimal. But they do seem to claim it's faster on their website...

Edit: For those not wanting to click, TLDR is they use excess storage around the world and make it accessible anywhere, and safe from failures. People with excess storage can join the network if they have enough storage/bandwidth and pass some tests. Their API is S3 compatible.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean the optimal cdn is maximally distributed to reduce load and latency right. Unfortunatly the web was not built in a manner that supports this.

Eg if we could have a single url for the same object that could be served by any server that is part of the fediverse then the fediverse itself would be an optimal cdn.

Perhaps we should take some notes from peertube. Plus more legitimate bit torrent content on the internet as a whole is hardly a bad thing make the isp's jobs harder for places without net neutrality.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago
[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I consulted with professor gpt and it seams that it's basicly just giving the same ip address to multiple servers meaning that any of said servers can serve as that ip.

Also it seems said ips require paying large sums of money to isps. My poiny was more that with the current mainstream internet (http websockets etc) it would require you to run a local service/proxy that can interpret a global id and route to basicly any small server with said resource. Unfortunatly i dont think its possible to build such a thing that would just work across browsers if embedded into a standard webpage.

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