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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 47 points 11 months ago

Universal basic income will start in the 2030s, which will help cushion the harms of job disruptions. It won’t be adequate at that point but over time it will become so.

In the US? Fat fucking chance. The social safety net here is so poor that even the amount you get for unemployment is the same as it was decades ago, which doesn't pace with inflation and can't even cover rent anymore.

I don't believe I'll see UBI in my working lifetime. There are too many powerful interests that oppose it.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago

Yes, so many people fail to see the existential stakes here. They think that even a bandaid like ubi is inevitable, because they don't acknowledge the possibility that we could just die.

Like that if it's cheaper to let us gather in unregulated tent cities and croak from the new plagues that blossom there, then that's what'll happen.

Obviously it's not good for anyone in the long term, but corpos can't think long term.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 11 months ago

but corpos can’t think long term

they can. it's just that, structurally, incentives are far more strongly geared to not do that in almost all cases.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago

I hovered on that word while writing it; almost put "can't afford to think long term," but that is even more ambiguous...

Anyway, thank you, I agree with your distinction.

My feeling is those incentives are so strong that anyone behaving too long term will usually get their lunch eaten by someone who is just out to make a quick profit.

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