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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago

I tried to explain this to libs back in 2018ish. If Trump is a fascist, why would voting him out do anything? Ya'll are either being hyperbolic, or you're being cowards.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Trump is a fascist, but that is because everyone in the U.S. government follows the logic of fascism, because neoliberalism is just fascism without the campy outfits. He just not a systemic-ending fascist.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Neoliberalism is rainbow fascism

[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

The issue is he’s an anti institutionalist corporate oligarch, which in a vacuum is neutral and par for the course, but in this case, one of the few things keeping America from completely coming apart at the seams are the institutions who want to make sure arsenic isn’t in kids’ toothpaste and shit.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

So is your bog-standard Republican. All of Trump's initial appointees were bog-standard Republican, and the only got wiggy by the end after everything had been gutted(something btw that Biden hasn't actually done anything to fix in the interim).

The only thing that Trump is bad at is the kayfabe of DC politics.

[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

That’s what P25 aims to fix.

Also there was a ton of brain drain. Competent people don’t want to come back knowing that they might just get fired / made miserable under the next R President, so it’s hard to even fix these institutional problems in 4 years

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Then it's never going to happen! If the Democrats aren't ready by now, they will never be ready. There is absolutely no way in this system to guarantee that power doesn't change hands between the parties. Especially after Bush v. Gore, and the latest Supreme Court mandates. The train only goes one way.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

anti-institutionalist

Is he? I mean, aesthetically and for his base, he appears that way, but he's a capitalist oligarch.

[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

They will dismantle the administrative state and replace it with a fully kleptocratic one, instead of the hybrid one we have on life support

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

i mean yeah, that's kinda my point

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