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Start a new party that isn't absolutely insane and has realistic views that can draw enough attention to compete.
Systemically nigh impossible due to spoilering effect, wasted votes, gerrymandering and so on under FPTP. Even then all would happen is the new party replacing on of the existing ones and still stuck with two party system.
YouTube, cgpgrey, animal Kingdom votes videos.
It's too late for a third party in 2024, but it's the perfect time to get people talking about 2028.
If we don't, we're gonna be right back here in 2028 talking about how it's too late.
This is when people are paying attention and desperate for any other option.
Planning ahead is the path forward, we can't just keep reacting every four years then ignoring it again.
Didn’t the Democratic Party crush any hope of RCV even when it passes on the ballot? I mean i expect that from republicans, but it seems it is a rare bipartisan effort to prevent it from ever happening.
Why would they want RCV to happen?
In it's current state neither party has accountability from their own voters.
They can literally do anything they want, raise billions of dollars and be practically free from any accountability because the parties aren't officially government agencies.
When corruption happens at the party level, it's literally "totally legal, and totally cool".
The people who would rise to power in such a system, will never give it up it willingly. And anyone that isn't corrupt, faces near impossible odds.
Look at AIPAC just dropping 15 million on a House seat primary. How are voters supposed to compete in a primary like that, and what are they supposed to do in a general?
Not vote Dem so the Republican that also takes AIPAC money wins? They're not even the only ones doing it, they're just the ones paying the most openly.
Our system is fucked and we can't keep waiting "one more election" to openly acknowledge it.
Right, it's been demonstrated for years why it's a broken system, but ironically the only ones who can change it are those in power because of it. State and local are a different matter, and there has been progress in some states to use multiple pick systems. The gerrymandering though...I'm from NC, so I know all too well about a corrupt state congress, drawing lines to benefit one side, and lots of voter intimidation in certain areas (that would vote Democrat, of course). When I was in grade school decades ago I read about using computers to draw fair voting maps and how it could help representation. Decades ago...and fixed maps are still a thing.