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Loyalty to the flag (lemmy.world)

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 78 points 4 months ago

A country that truly believes in freedom and democracy shouldn't require you to take a loyalty oath every day.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This whole thing is such a mind fuck and crazy process for people outside merica. I really thought it was a joke on movies, but realising that they are really all brainwashed since children like this makes a lot more sense when you consider everything.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 19 points 4 months ago

The Conservatives here in the UK wanted to enforce something similar, but in the form of a patriotic song. Everybody just laughed. That would never fly here!

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 months ago

And it's spreading. Denmark is pushing laws to restrict using other flags. It might be a dog whistle for anti-palestine but still. Rubs me the wrong way.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

That's how I feel about my state adopting laws saying Non-Citizens can't vote. They already can't, the only thing the law is accomplishing is a dog whistle.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

It's almost like if you have to keep telling yourself that you live in a free country, you probably don't.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

And we’ve had multiple lawsuits decide exactly that - you do not have to do it.

[-] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

With this court, all bets are off though.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

In most schools, it's not. But they don't advertise that.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] wanderer@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment protects students from being compelled to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools.

They can't require participation.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It says I live in a state that requires it with no exceptions and that's simply not true. In HS a lot of students didn't participate.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It's been made clear in court that students can't be forced to make the pledge against their will.

this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2024
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