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Soo, booting your computer from someone else's computer?
I mean we've had thin clients and PXE for ages?
And bootp before that, and tftp before that. So I think roughly... 35 years?
PXE specifically uses tftp doesn't it?
yep
More being able to use cloud storage and not need a full physical secondary computer. In theory the cloud can be accessed anywhere, even if a portion is down, not the same for a single physical PC.
is the non physical cloud in the room right now?
Nope! That's the point. It's in someone else's room!
Google redundancy.
The cloud is many computers with a redundancy, you putting multiple PCs in remote locations so you can access when one goes down….?
One requires two physical computers, while one requires one and the cloud. Not a hard concept here or anything people.
The joke is about what exactly you're doing with the cloud with no physical computer in front of you.
Because you said "not need a physical computer". If there is no physical computer, with what device are you accessing the cloud?
No one is arguing against its redundancy. We are saying you still need your own physical device to access the cloud. Whether its a computer, phone, or anything else. That was the joke.
Traditional computing involves a computer on a desk. If everything is in the cloud, and there is no physical computer, then there is nothing on the desk. How do you access the cloud with a bare desk? That is the joke. Presumably you meant that there is no singular server, and a deliberate misinterpretation like the other commenter's is a form of humor (Brône, 2008).
Sometimes deliberate misinterpretation can be used as a linguistic device (Wang, 2008). Perhaps you consider that trolling or derailing, but regardless of whether or not you appreciate the joke, to continue in the thread does not contribute to a productive discussion.
One study found that troll-like responses "deviate from expectations" and "easily capture unsuspecting users’ attention and manage to prolong futile conversations interminably" (Paakki, 2021). Perhaps it is your comments that deviate from community expectations and are prolonging futile conversations? Does it count as trolling if it's not intentional? Appendix 1 shares the author's criteria, so I suppose you can try applying them yourself.
Personally, I'm finding this interaction positively fascinating. I'm a little disappointed I couldn't easily find a more relevant analysis on linguistic humor, but that article by Henna Paakki actually looks really interesting. I highly recommend reading it, I'm only halfway through the introduction and I'm already hooked. For me, it's absolutely been productive. I'm going to print that paper out and make it some night reading. Thanks!
I specified in my original comment about a full secondary computer being a requirement already. So no, your joke is moronic considered the established context of the conversation. Using the coud doesn’t require a full secondary computer. Did you miss this key detail in my original comment or something……?
Jokes can be appreciated in conversation, but not when they miss the original context…. I was clear in my original comment, so yeah fuck off with this “joke” bullshit, I was trying to have a conversation. All you are doing is being a troll here, especially when the joke just actually doesn’t fucking work…
How is it a joke when you clearly misunderstood my original comment?
Okay so you should comprehend how multiple “computers” allow a redundancy over a single one.
Yeah….?
You can’t access a remote physical computer without internet either? So what’s your point here?
I do, clearly you don’t if you need to ask the question.
So what are you doing here exactly? You’re not adding to the discussion, so that would make you a troll, no?
What is so hard to understand about one needing two full physical computers, while one needs a single full physical computer?
I did answer and the statement wasn’t nonsense. What’s hard to understand about the difference between two and one…?
One has redundancy and one doesn’t… not shockingly they are different things for this reason…..
Do thin clients and PXE require a server specifically configured to serve a boot image? (Genuinely asking.)
I'm not sure whether this project is doing something new by just accessing network resources that are nothing more than shared files, without any specific software running on the server (beyond just a server serving files).
Yes, they do. The novel thing here is serving the files out of Google Drive.
There are existing PXE servers that run over the Internet, like boot.netboot.xyz, so that you don't have to run your own (assuming you trust everyone involved in that connection). Those are far more practical.