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[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Signal data will be encrypted if your disk is also encrypted.

True.

and you don't have any type of verified boot process

How motherboard refusing to boot from another drive would protect anything?

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Its more about protecting your boot process from malware.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, yes. By refusing to boot. It can't prevent booting if motherboard is replaced.

EDIT: s/do anything/prevent booting/

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Thats correct. Thats one of the many perks.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

EDIT: s/do anything/prevent booting/

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If the hardware signatures don't match, it wont boot without giving a warning. If the TPM/Secure Enclave is replaced/removed/modified, it will not boot without giving a warning.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If the hardware signatures don't match

Compromised hardware will say it is same hardware

If the TPM/Secure Enclave is replaced/removed/modified, it will not boot without giving a warning.

Compromised hardware controls execution of software. Warning is done in software. Conpromised hardware won't let it happen.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Compromised hardware doesn't know the signatures. Math.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Compromised hardware can't create new signatures, but it doesn't matter because it controls execution of software and can skip any checks.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If the hardware is tampered, it will not pass the attestation test, which is an online component. It will fail immediately and you will be alerted. Thats the part of verified boot that makes this so much harder for adversaries. They would have to compromise both systems. The attestation system is going to be heavily guarded.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

which is an online component.

So, storing on Signal's server key to decrypt keys. Welcome back to apple-isms and online-only.

It will fail immediately and you will be alerted.

Provided you have some other non-compromised way of communications.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, verified boot will have out-of-bands alerts for you by design. Without the online component, you will risk not being able to detect tampering.

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