People who won't transition to vegan because it's hard when we all did it when it was way harder (hexbear.net)

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Like in the 90s, there were zero veg restaurants (in my town, anyways). The best you could do was Indian, and damn I ate a lot of Indian. I was lucky if a store had one kind of tofu. Soymilk wasn't really sold in the store. Fake meats and specialty veg foods didn't exist. No vegan ice creams and desserts and shit. Also no Uber Eats.

I listen to people complaining today and I really have no patience for it. I went vegetarian (not vegan*) at 19. I bought and cooked my own meals. I made a fuck ton of rice and beans. And I had to do this in a suburban hell with no car. Adults in a city whinge that it's hard and I'm like badeline-scream

Granted, people living in rural Kansas or whatever food desert might have it harder. For the rest, fucking just do it.

*I've been vegan for ten years now

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[-] Angel@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Do they happen to be born after 1993 by any chance?

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Not all of them! What's frustrating to me is that while a handful of vegans I know are comrades, most are libs. (One person that's a turbo-lib mostly does it for health reasons)

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

I'm just gonna copy and paste something I wrote elsewhere to describe my thoughts on "vegan for health" and "vegan for the environment:"

I genuinely believe that carnists often refuse to accept ethical veganism as true specifically because, if they do, it leaves them with two options: either they can go vegan, which many of them unfortunately deem too "inconvenient" or they can continue being a carnist while acknowledging the truth, which is hypocritical and therefore considered shameful for many.

So when you have a person who eats a plant-based diet and does not have to deal with the above obstacle that carnists have when it comes to embracing vegan ethics, for them to still have that tendency to eat plant-based while simultaneously professing "Yeah, but I just don't give a shit about animals. I'm only doing this for myself/the planet!" is a bit of a headscratcher for me.

These kinds of people seemingly should have nothing to lose if they are to embrace vegan ethics, so it always leads me to the suspicion that they're likely not even eating entirely plant-based to begin with.

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