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Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel
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left wing is so busy ripping itself apart while right has fully consolidated, good luck winning elections. This is practically handing POTUS45 his POTUS47 title. US left wing always picks wrong timing to settle internal scores which is why it's always flatfooted and toothless.
No, no, THIS time handing over power to fascists will DEFINITELY make the left in this country strong.
/s since that's literally what's being said by these fucking people who go on about how the ~~national rebirth~~ 'reconstruction' of the political environment under a Trump regime is how we get progressive victories.
The communist leader in Germany before Hitler took over said that failure of the nazi government would help convince people to vote for communism in the next election; he was subsequently killed in a concentration camp.
I mean he was basically right. The social democrats took 30% and the Nazis got 0% in the next election
In 1949 after Germany's defeat in WWII.
Gottem
If only they'd joined the SPD in voting for Hindenburg, the guy who won the election and appointed Hitler chancellor, then Hindenburg would've... won the election and appointed Hitler chancellor.
Just reading about it:
Not sure if it is analogous to America, since the KPD in Weimar Germany was more prominent politically than the DSA is in America. It was definitely a bad position in hindsight.
Wasn't it the SPD that appointed Hitler Chancellor? Sounds like in hindsight, they were right.
Hindenburg did.
And Hindenburg wasn't the candidate of the SPD. He was the candidate of a coalition of parties (the Reichsblock) spearheaded by the openly antidemocratic conservative-liberal German Peoples Party (DVP).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_German_presidential_election
It's good to know that on top of Marxism being a failure from the very start, it also has a long history of paving the way for fascists to get into power. Some things never change.
Is that why Trump and fascism are about to be re-elected, because of the failure of Marxism?
No Marxism is a failure for a lot more than that, it's one of the most evil failed ideology in human history. It's just ironic how the people who helped get the Nazis in power are the same people doing the same now. The far left has always been the greatest indirect ally of the of the far right, and they say the horseshoe theory is not real.
So, the Marxists, who have no participating party in American elections, with no elected representatives in the federal government, are the real reason fascism is happening in America?
That’s certainly an opinion.
And that’s supposed to convince Marxists to vote for Joe Biden? How are Marxists the ones sowing division among the left when you’re the one out here calling us names.
Unless, sowing division is actually your goal. Just thunk about it.
Right, my ultimate goal is for the fascists to be defeat and disappear and for the far left to disappear with them. Until then, I have a moral obligation to call out far left extremism when I see it and call out any attempts that try to sabotage Trump's defeat in November... like what the DSA is trying to do here.
The DSA is doing more more to fight fascism than you or I. To claim that an explicitly anti-fascist organization somehow enables fascism is ridiculous.
like in definition of insanity: making the same mistake over and over expecting different outcomes? Yeah by that definition US left is insane.
In reality I have never encountered people who strictly define themselves as “leftist”, “liberal”, “progressive”, “socialist”, “democratic socialist”, “communist”, “center-left”, “moderate left”, etc.
seems like an attempt to drive wedges. Remember: We are all for a viable candidate that advances those issues even partially, versus the polar opposite.
Not all of us, unfortunately.
Well, apart from the literal assassination attempt.............
The right has so much infighting that it's dirty to even call them 'the right' as if it's a single group. If the US weren't using a FPTP system with the threat of vote spoiling, it would be much clearer just how split all political factions really are. Neo-Nazis have been calling Trump "Zion Don" for the past ten years and crying about all his links to da jooz and blags, the Libertarians disagree so much that about 2 million of them voted their own party instead of Rep or Dem in 2020. There's even PACs like the Lincoln Project.
The reason it's important to recognize this is that it's important to know their weaknesses. They're not all one homogeneous group, and many of them literally want to kill each other.
fighting or not they have all lined up behind POTUS45 even if previously they criticized him etc. At the time when left is dilly-dallying and builds up "resistance centers". Look, all the pro-Gazan declarations with conditional support for Biden is a waste of air as as soon as POTUS45 will grab his POTUS47 title it's game over and they will have no recourse, and more likely than not public protests will get slowly outlawed. Look North of the border for examples of how it's done (Alberta, Canada)... so no matter what they do nothing is going to change now the only differentiator is that Biden may listen whereas POTUS45 absolutely will not.
It’s much more difficult to build something than it is to tear it down.
That's why we should have Ranked Choice voting. people could give their preference a chance, while still counting their vote against those they don't want in office.
It's because they always get angry and start pointing fingers when things get tough.