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Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel
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No, no, THIS time handing over power to fascists will DEFINITELY make the left in this country strong.
/s since that's literally what's being said by these fucking people who go on about how the ~~national rebirth~~ 'reconstruction' of the political environment under a Trump regime is how we get progressive victories.
The communist leader in Germany before Hitler took over said that failure of the nazi government would help convince people to vote for communism in the next election; he was subsequently killed in a concentration camp.
I mean he was basically right. The social democrats took 30% and the Nazis got 0% in the next election
In 1949 after Germany's defeat in WWII.
Gottem
If only they'd joined the SPD in voting for Hindenburg, the guy who won the election and appointed Hitler chancellor, then Hindenburg would've... won the election and appointed Hitler chancellor.
Just reading about it:
Not sure if it is analogous to America, since the KPD in Weimar Germany was more prominent politically than the DSA is in America. It was definitely a bad position in hindsight.
Wasn't it the SPD that appointed Hitler Chancellor? Sounds like in hindsight, they were right.
Hindenburg did.
And Hindenburg wasn't the candidate of the SPD. He was the candidate of a coalition of parties (the Reichsblock) spearheaded by the openly antidemocratic conservative-liberal German Peoples Party (DVP).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_German_presidential_election
It's good to know that on top of Marxism being a failure from the very start, it also has a long history of paving the way for fascists to get into power. Some things never change.
Is that why Trump and fascism are about to be re-elected, because of the failure of Marxism?
No Marxism is a failure for a lot more than that, it's one of the most evil failed ideology in human history. It's just ironic how the people who helped get the Nazis in power are the same people doing the same now. The far left has always been the greatest indirect ally of the of the far right, and they say the horseshoe theory is not real.
So, the Marxists, who have no participating party in American elections, with no elected representatives in the federal government, are the real reason fascism is happening in America?
That’s certainly an opinion.
And that’s supposed to convince Marxists to vote for Joe Biden? How are Marxists the ones sowing division among the left when you’re the one out here calling us names.
Unless, sowing division is actually your goal. Just thunk about it.
Right, my ultimate goal is for the fascists to be defeat and disappear and for the far left to disappear with them. Until then, I have a moral obligation to call out far left extremism when I see it and call out any attempts that try to sabotage Trump's defeat in November... like what the DSA is trying to do here.
The DSA is doing more more to fight fascism than you or I. To claim that an explicitly anti-fascist organization somehow enables fascism is ridiculous.
like in definition of insanity: making the same mistake over and over expecting different outcomes? Yeah by that definition US left is insane.