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submitted 4 months ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Yes, there's more to it than that and it's quite stupid and also quite bigoted. Republicans don't need to know that. They didn't and won't read his book anyway.

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[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 91 points 4 months ago

Which is totally fine right? Unless he belongs to some sort of extremist group that base their identity around intolerance, racism and homophobia.. but that's just crazy talk! This guy could be the new VP!

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No it’s not fine because he is insinuating that it is a choice that can be logic’d into/out of

[-] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean, for some people, it is. When you're exploring your identity, you don't always get it right on your first try. Just like there are people who are convinced they're straight that are actually gay (or bi, or pan, or what have you). Though that is far more common, largely because of the societal pressures to conform to heteronormativity.

But then, perhaps that truly is Vance's case here. Maybe he actually is gay, and his whole... everything is just him trying desperately to convince himself otherwise.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 months ago
[-] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm aware of this, but again, people don't always figure themselves out the first time. We are messy beasts.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Right, but the reason he's saying this at all is to try and make the claim that it is a choice, and that he simply changed his choice. Not that he found his real self without societal pressure.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

OK but that is not the same thing as making a choice to be gay. That is the entire point. What he said insinuates that it is a choice.

[-] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't doubt the facts of the story, even if I doubt the conclusion he reached.

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