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How does renouncing citizenship work?
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I had no idea this was a thing. If you renounce your citizenship and you don't yet have a new one... What a weird place to be in.
Yeah, being stateless is really bad. There's a few international agreements to avoid the creation of more stateless people, but it still happens. You end up with people spending years in airports or jails as their visa expires and they have no way to renew it or get a visa for elsewhere, and asylum claims can take months to years to process, and get denied anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statelessness
Exactly what I was wondering, thanks. I assume you have to renounce before acquiring a new citizenship? No thanks.
No, other way around. Most countries won't even allow you to renounce if you don't have another citizenship.
The US also charges $10,000 dollars to accept your renunciation. The US is one of the few countries that taxes its citizens in foreign countries so there's a big incentive to renounce when you get citizenship in a better place. There is a substantial tax deduction for the first ~150K you earn in another country, as long as you spend less than 10 days in America or traveling and pay taxes in that country, as long as that country has such an agreement with the US.
It's $2350 to renounce, not $10k.
Most countries tell you to renounce after you gain the new so it isn't a problem. A few allos dual citizenhip. (maybe most allow dual? I seem to recall that but it is outside where I'm sure)
If you do that couldn't you just not let them know about the new citizenship? How does that work?
It's very difficult to enforce. I've heard of cases where people like show the embassy a passport of a citizenship they said they renounced by accident, and were just sternly told to renounce it, other cases where their new citizenship was revoked.
generally it isn't enforced
All the examples listed in Wiki seem very different from what OP is talking about. Most of the stateless persons are located in 4 counties. Crazy.
Countries typically don't allow that. (Do any allow it?) For example, Canada requires you (at least) to be a citizen of another country and to live outside Canada.
The UN would likely consider it a violation of their human rights if a country knowingly allowed a citizen to become stateless. I would hope that at least all member states would not allow it, but I don't know for certain.
You can renounce us citizenship any time you'd like. They don't care if you'll become stateless. But you definitely do not want to be stateless.
Now you have me wondering about legal juristiction of mermaids in international waters.....
It's easier to just s say they don't exist than it is to deal with all the complications.
Mermaids HAVE to exist!!! I'm gonna fuck a fish with tittys!!!
The USA allows it. Though I imagine the embassy staff will probably try to warn you.
Usually your old country takes you back in that case unless there's some problem like you married an ISIS fighter.