Americans, if you put yourself in the shoes of Washington, Jefferson, Adams and their ilk at the founding of this country, what questions do you think they would have for the leaders of today? (lemmy.world)

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

That’s not the question they would ask. Slaves were considered property, not people. Well, until they became 3/5 of a person. And finally, much later on a full person.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

3/5 compromise wasent even about considering them as "mostly" people. It was about how they should be counted as far as a census was concerned, in order to determine the amount of congressional representation for that state. They still had no rights and were fully considered property.

If only Jon brown had been one of the founders.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Oh absolutely. It was the southern whites wanting more power than they are worth.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

true, the founders were even worse than I could put into words

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

And yet, there are people, right now, who idolize that.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

yeah, the republican party and every single one of their voters

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I think it’s unproductive to treat the founding fathers as a monolith. What Franklin and Hamilton believed was markedly different than the likes of Patrick Henry or Jefferson

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

A large majority of the founders would disagree

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_who_owned_slaves

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Even during the 3/5th era, they were 0/5ths a person and an extra 3/5th a person to the slave owners who could actually vote. Spoiler alert: the slave owners did not vote with their slave's best interests in mind.

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