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Well, to benefit his own personal ambitions and to be able to pardon himself from all those pesky federal charges. Trump’s freedom may be on the line with this election, and he knows it.
That's what they said last time and look where he is now. Sure, he's a convicted felon and that's sort of fun to say but that's more of a historical footnote than a meaningful development. There's still been no serious consequences to his actions and if I were to place a bet on it I would put money on the chance that there never will be.
There hasn’t been a Federal trial yet. It’s not that the charges “didn’t stick.” They haven’t been heard yet.
Oh I'm fully aware of the situation but I don't think that changes anything I said. Do you think he'll do prison time or be forced to dissolve any of his businesses as restitution for any of his crimes? If not then all we're really debating is the degree to which rich and powerful people are treated differently than the rest of us.
I don’t know. Another one of his attorneys turned to testify against him in the election fraud case. The documents case could absolutely lead to jail time if Smith can push for another judge. Cannon can’t postpone indefinitely without repercussions.
As for payments, if he loses his appeal in NY, he’s on the hook for half a billion.
Saudi Arabia's already given Trump $2 billion via his son-in-law (and that's likely just the public part of what they've given him). He's not going to give a shit about a few hundred million dollars judgement, even if it doesn't die in the appeals process.
Theoretically, sure, I just don't see any of that happening. That's not all that different from the situation four years ago and at minimum that speed difference is a big part of what I'm referring to. Someone who stole $5000 would have started serving their sentence three and a half years ago but we're still talking about maybe getting everything to line up to possibly take action against Trump if things go our way. That's bullshit even if he does go to prison and as we've already established I don't think that's going to happen.
Are you talking about the fairly recent news about Jenna Ellis? Unless I'm mistaken, she's cooperating with a different set of fake electors cases that's based out of Arizona.
Even as someone who follows this stuff fairly regularly, it's impossible to keep track of all of Trump's criminal cases... and that's just the stuff we know about that prosecutors have picked up.
If he loses the election and if the Supreme Court stays out of it, I'd agree.
He also has sentencing scheduled in September for his felony convictions, though I don't have a clue what that will be or what appeal timeline and whatnot looks like.
It's frustrating to see all of this move so slowly. I know these things take time, but it feels like there was no urgency in 2021 when he left office to deal with the election interference and numerous, publicly known, criminal acts.
The only consequence he would ever face would be having to flee to Russia or Saudi Arabia to avoid prison time in the US, and that only if he weren't given home incarceration.