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Plant-Based Meat Alternatives Healthier And Better For The Planet, Report Finds
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I am once again asking for meat and dairy subsidies in the US to be shifted to alternatives like plant-based products and lab meat.
One of the biggest barriers to alternatives is the cost. Currently they cost like twice as much as the "normal" product. If they cost a roughly equal amount, more people would start buying them instead. The US has huge agriculture subsidies; we could shift them to alternatives to encourage a change in production and a change in retail purchasing.
Yeah, meat is so heavily subsidized. And I’ll acknowledge that this is one of those problems that you can’t really solve unless you’re willing to yank your political career and your party. People don’t want to quit meat like they don’t want gas to be expensive enough to account for the damage done by using it
lab meat costs like 100 dollars for a pound. its insanely expensive
Personally, I do not want any lab grown meat, and as for the pseudo burgers and chicken (I grew up vegetarian) the "nutritional" benefits are not their due to over processing
That's one opinion. I will take all of the lab grown meat thanks. I'm vegetarian, working to vegan. If there was pork chop that came out tomorrow that was made in a lab and no pig died for it - I'm fucking eating it.
Impossible foods have allowed me to go veggie, so I think we should sing their praises.
but why would you eat something that makes you sick? meat is meat. the artificial one will make you sick as well.
???
Humans are omnivores. Meat doesn't make us sick. Over consumption makes us sick. I don't eat impossible for every meal. I eat it maybe once or twice a week.
but that is what the article is about? meat makes us and the planet sick, apparently.
thats what the report finds, its in the title.
Just because one thing is healthier doesn't mean the other makes you sick.
Your dumb logic is what makes me sick.
you must be pretty bedridden you dind't even read that article
Probably for the same reasons a lot of us humans are drinking alcohol and smoking tobacco. And eating intense amounts of sugar.
Personally, I don't want to be part of a human society which purposefully creates huge amounts of suffering for animals (including human animals). Yet, here we are.
that is a point i can get behind. solid ethics intstead of marketing pseudo meat when you just can eat the plant like it is.
Pseudo meat is a way to help people who miss meat to eat less of it. It's not a necessary feature of a non-meat diet.
I think its a way to make money... I kinda stopped believing that Food supppliers are in the buisness for anything other than profit.
That's fine, you don't have to eat them. You can still pay a premium for the more environmentally-expensive real meat, instead of the government-subsidized costs we pay now.
So? Don't eat them? I dont see why you are upset at the suggestion of changing our national subsidiaries away from what we know is harming the environment.
Besides, there is a lot more to eat veg than the proceed Morningstar, Boca, Immposible junk. I mostly eat rice, beans, curry and tofu I prepare myself.
Why not?
because thats stupid, unrealistic, and a nightmare to produce.
Today sure. Every new technology has.
Doesn't mean it is the same in the future.
yeah, well, you got a point there. sure.
but every media source talks about lab meat like its a viable thing to manufacture, sell and buy. like a real alternative to meat. i found only one place to buy it, read this:
"For the first time in history, you can buy cultivated meat in retail to cook at home. Our newest product, GOOD Meat 3, is now available to buy in the frozen groceries section at Huber’s Butchery, one of Singapore’s premier producers and suppliers of high-quality meat products. This delicious, shredded chicken is made with 3% cultivated meat in combination with plant-based ingredients, similar to the way we’ve always made our chicken. GOOD Meat 3 gives us a way to make our cultivated meat more readily available, while we continue to scale our technology."
so 3 percent lab grown meat is in the thing you can buy.
https://www.hubers.com.sg/Productlisting.aspx?CatID=SABVAEIARQBSAFMAMQBIAFUAQgBFAFIAUwA=
but i doubt they sell it, because its not listed in their shop.
At this point, it's basically a technological marvel. You're definitely right about that.
Give it 10 years, and I'd be willing to bet you'll be able to buy 100% lab-grown meat at rates that are at least competitive.
competitive to what , thats the question ;-) but yes, you are completely right, i dont know what the future will bring.
Competitive to slaughtered meat. Lab-grown meat is literally just meat. The 3% stuff is just a gimmick. Give it a decade or so and I think we'll have 100% lab-grown meat.
I could even see it being cheaper and just as good as (if not better than) slaughtered meat in the future. Kind of like lab-grown diamonds compared to mined diamonds.
it will never be cheaper than slaughtered meat.
and this is the reason: the whole angle is you eat it because you like animals, your health, and nature. so it will never be cheaper than actual meat.
not because thats impossible; but because someone wants to make money.
if ot would be cheaper, than price would be the main argument; but it isnt.
the main argument is health and nature and climate change.
I could see lab-grown meat becoming cheaper simply because it requires less land. Eventually, the only slaughtered meat will be from the farms that do it out of passion, and you have only the free-range, organic, good lifestyle kind of farms that already charge a premium.
The ones doing it for money would be happy to use less land and resources to produce more meat more easily.
Of course, we have no idea what will actually happen. We can only really guess.
yeah, you need less land for that, but a factory, huge vats, a laboratory for quality control, plumbing, huge amounts of water. it will be a bit similiar to a large brewery, but way more complicated, since you are not dealing with liquids that you can pump around when its done.
those who own these factories will not be farmers.
Every single piece of technology that you use daily without even thinking about it because it is so deeply ingrained in your life at one point had people just like you talking about it just like that. You people never figure out that today isn't the rest of time. It's like the opposite of object permanency or something, some people just can't figure out that now isn't here forever.
i am autistic for a reason, but, its not my goddamn fault that you can't buy this stuff anywhere, while you vegan folk make playpretend like you could do that.
I wish I could be there the day you bit into what you decided was a delicious burger or steak, only to be told that- *gasp*- it was grown in a lab and that DNA is DNA.
Most meatists like that would just get angry when they encounter that. Saying you tricked them.
And then they would start eating even more meat just to spite you and vegans.
It really isn't that big of an argument I'm afraid.
spot on. pseudo meat is just junk food.