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Well, vertically landing rockets was a solved problem before Spacex was a twinkle in Elon Musk's stupid eye. He certainly managed to funnel a large amount of federal money into re-solving that problem, though.
Landing vertically is the problem, size is just a question of scope. It was a testbed. The project got shitcanned because of lack of funding, if the same amount of money had been dumped into it as into Spacex then vertical landing rockets would have been in production much earlier. All Musk has done is be the conduit through which money flows.
Don't shit on talented workers because they have to work for an asshole.
Pretty sure I wasn't shitting on anybody but Elon. The workers at Spacex have done good work, but it's not some earth shattering change, it's just a progression of already existing technology. They didn't invent self-landing rockets, and at this point people can make self-landing R/C rockets with off-the-shelf hardware.
Literally all technology is a progression of already existing technology. I feel like you're being kind of persnickety.
Coming up with a new thing vs refining a thing that already exists seems to be extremely distinct and easy to understand. Coming up with a completely new thing - landing a rocket on its tail - was done in the 90s. Refining that idea that was already come up with and then demonstrated as possible is just taking somebody else's idea and perfecting it.
I think it's very distinct and not persnickety at all.
This is characteristic of every single thing Elon is involved with. He does not invent ideas, he takes other people's ideas and then dumps truckloads of money into them while treating the people he pays like dogshit and pretending to be clever.
This is needlessly hostile
We disagree, instead of acknowledging that they went directly for the reddit-tier "check your reading comprehension", which is extremely hostile so they got the pigpoopballs. I also blocked them because I don't want reddit hostility on my communist website, so it's a nice zero conflict result where I will no longer need to interact with them and vice versa.
If getting ppb is too hostile for you, I dunno what to tell ya.
im getting 10x more reddit particles from you than @Chronicon@hexbear.net so i guess thanks for the advice re: block button
Check your reading comprehension is an unnecessary comment on someone's ability to read, rather than just engaging with the argument at hand. If you feel like someone didn't adequately address your point, you can say that without insulting their intelligence.
So check your comprehension of pig pooping on balls.
Absolutely. But the engineers that worked on that project and the engineers that work on the falcon 9 both deserve our praise.
The workers at spacex have done some amazing things despite all the hurdles in their way.
size is absolutely not just a question of scope. there are qualitative differences that emerge from the accumulation of quantative change.
Electric cars were a solved problem before modern China was even a country. All BYD and Nio are doing is funneling a large amount of state funding into re-solving that problem.
Yes I agree, they are progressing and iterating on something that is quite old.
And so is SpaceX
Glad we can agree.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I'm pretty sure that he bought space x the same way he did Tesla and the point of the above comment is that Musk sucks, but the workers actually doing things are cool and should be supported
Sorry, I do not support capitalist endeavors. I don't think the workers suck, but I don't support their environmental degradation nor their abuse by a psychotic billionaire nor the products they create. Guess we have a difference of opinion.
Edit: also Spacex was absolutely founded by Elon Musk, after his dipshit ass went to Russia to try to buy Russian rockets and a Russian rocket engineer literally spat on his shoes and told him he would never be able to use his filthy money to buy the Soviet rockets. That engineer deserves accolades.
Commoditizing something is harder than showing a demonstrator (even if it's less cool than the demonstrator)