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[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 months ago

Of course I'm really not a fan of whatever they do and I would never buy an Ubisoft game for at least a decade now, but I still think that a lot of people should don't know what buying means and that they never, ever bought (and hence owned) a game or movie. Those are not material goods like a car, which you can physically transfer from one person to another. Those are intellectual goods, and ownership here means you own all rights for it, which usually only the publisher has. What you buy online or in a shop is mere a license to watch/play/use/whatever and a medium with the associated data (like a DVD).

Therefore "piracy" had never been theft (or robbery, as it is called so nicely on German news). It is a license violation. Just that doesn't sound as demonizing as the publisher want it to sound.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

It's really very simple:

  • When it's for the benefit of the Owner class (in this specific case mainly Publishers) it's ownership hence people are told they're buying games (only to discover after paying that it's not so) and piracy is described and even in some countries treated as Theft.
  • When it's for the benefit of citizens in general it's intellectual property and it's not really owned by them when they buy it (only licensed, often in such a way that they can lose access to what they were told they were buying) and if they do happen to created intellectual property themselves it can easily be taken away from the by the Owner class who "curiously" even in those countries which treat Piracy the same as Theft won't be criminally held responsible for it.

It's the good old "one rule for thee another for me" so popular with authoritarians, especially Fascists (which probably explains why Germany is one of a few countries in Europe that criminalizes piracy, but de facto only treats it as such when it's the little people doing it).

[-] wieson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Are you calling the Federal Republic of Germany fascist?

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are way too many of the "old ways" still around in Germany, from a surveillance culture and a very propagandistic Press activelly indoctrinating people to them continuing to support an ethno-Fascist state committing a Genocide with weapons very overtly because of their race and German courts convicting people for "anti-semitism" when they say the "from the Land to the Sea" saying (which is about Israel, not the Jewish Religion) but not doing the same for actual overt racist statements and behaviors against other ethnic groups.

The rise of the AfD has happened in a field well plowed by mainstream German politicians with the idea that people's worth depends on race, with some races being deemed good (ubermenschen) and others bad (untermensched) - they might not use the same words anymore, but they certainly share that same view of Mankind.

The apparatus of the State and even the Justice System in Germany is riddled with the very same ideas about people - the racist idea that people's value is determined by their race and some races are better than others - that served as the foundation of Nazism.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cars have copyright too you know, you can't make another car that's exactly like a Civic and not get sued, and we still own them, so what are you even on about?

[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

That is a patent, not a copyright. If you sell you car, you don't have it anymore. If somebody steals your car, you don't have it anymore. What I'm on about is the difference between material and intellectual goods. You can read it up, if your school didn't cover it.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And if I sell my disc I don't have my game anymore, what's so different about it?

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