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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Comprehensive...

Real-world applications...

Promising...

Sometime I feel that research is just a bunch of guys trying to sell useless stuff (myself included).

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

A bit of a more serious comment on that: knowledge is never useless. Many, maybe most, researchers agree with that. It's why we do what we do. Publishers and sources of funding (be they third party or governmental), however, disagree. So we have to sell them on the importance of our research this way.

[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

"Knowledge is never useless"

Going on a tangent here: While I fully agree with the above, there is an amount of knowledge after which fact checking becomes bothersome, and some people just skip fact checking overall. One could argue that, while knowledge is never useless, unchecked knowledge might become bothersome or dangerous.

See flatearthers, scientology, etc. for extreme examples.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Counter-point:

There are also many widely accepted beliefs in the scientific community that are based on misinterpreted data/results published by others, unconfirmed, and out-dated beliefs. I agree with you, but I also think we too quickly dismiss those who question the paradigm and many in translational/translated fields (like medicine) continue operating on out-dated beliefs because they don't want to or don't have the time to keep up with current research.

Case in point: the justification for 6-foot spacing at the beginning of the COVID pandemic. Particles do not magically drop off after a few feet, this was justified in medical textbooks based on a misinterpretation of a particle physicist's publication. Another example: many organic chemistry classes still teach that FTIR is a qualitative method only despite many examples of FTIR quantitation and the widespread adoption of this method throughout companies that produce instruments and analysis software.

We should encourage trying to disprove that which we think is true and unquestionable so that we can fix our past mistakes and better inform our future work.

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Depends. What's your field?

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Condensed matter - basic research. No actual real world applications, independently of what the abstracts/introductions may claim.

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Awesome! Two questions: 1. Could you pitch some of your material as having a possible future application of radically increasing packing efficiency for airline bound luggage? And, 2. What's your favorite kind of nuclear pasta?