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Russia, Iran and China seen ‘ramping up’ effort to divide US voters.
(chinachronicler.com)
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I guess if I was talking about "all the dumbasses on lemmy.world" and commiserating with others about how "they're not paid, they're just actually that stupid" you would probably take offense too
Not particularly. Why would I give a shit? Why do you give a shit? Is lemmy.ml part of your identity?
Anyway, this is what I said:
And since you apparently come here to work out your aggression on people who aren't talking about you because they dared insult users of your preferred server, I guess you don't fit that description.
I mean, I'm scrolling on my feed and I see people talking shit, I respond because why the fuck not? Like I didn't give a shit about lemmy.ml before I realized it was apparently some sort of mark of the beast for liberals.
Apart from the fact that, again, I was talking about a specific group of people who come from lemmy.ml, and the fact that I'm a socialist, you're 100% accurate in your assessment of what I was doing. But good for you coming to the defense of people who want Russia and Donald Trump to win. I'm sure they appreciate it.
I've yet to interact with anyone on .ml who's straight up pro-trump, unless you're playing the game of "anyone questioning dear leader is working for russia and supporting trump"
As for pro-russia, I've run into plenty of people who want the US to lose, but that's a world apart from being pro-russia, especially as it is today. It gets conflated that way because election seasons have a way of making people stop seeing nuance.
Believe me I have plenty of issues with some people on .ml, but this isn't one of them.
One of the issues I have with people from lemmy.ml now that I didn't have before is that at least one of them acts like this is some sort of high school football rivalry where if you insult one of us, you insult all of us and therefore come in guns blazing.
But what would I know, I'm just a "liberal" talking about the "mark of the beast."
I'm just returning energy, you talk shit like this is a high school football rivalry, you get it back
No matter how many times you want me to suggest that I was talking about the entirety of your dear country of lemmy.ml, long may she reign, I still wasn't. I was still only talking about a specific group of very terrible people that you are defending because they happen to come from lemmy.ml and lemmy.ml über alles.
I mean there are some groups of absolute wastes of DNA here on lemmy.world. I'll be the first to admit it. I won't get all "HOW DARE YOU!!!" if you said so.
If every 3rd-4th politics thread didn't find time for the 2 minutes hate because of the instance someone picked months ago maybe I would be less annoyed about it.
There's plenty of people who get called tankies" who are fine, and it's just politically illiterate people being melodramatic. People "on the left" can be politically illiterate, and I would say someone putting on the aesthetic of being a leftist while still making room to be chauvinist, misogynistic or transphobic is what I'm more worried about.
Part of why I push back on people trying to paint with a broad brush in is that people to the left of the Democrats aren't a monolith and the way tankie gets thrown around it treats them as such.
It's actually surreal to have people expressing antiwar positions get accused of being 'tankies'. Even the word evokes wanting to 'send in the tanks'- yet these are the people saying "maybe we shouldn't be sending tons of military equipment (ie tanks) to fuel a war.
This is c/news, not c/politics. I do not participate in c/politics specifically due to the group of people on lemmy.world I was talking about.
And, for the millionth time, I wasn't painting with a broad brush. I was talking about a specific group of people. A group of people who I defined.
No matter how much you want to try to gaslight me into saying what I didn't say, it won't work. So stop trying.
I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but I'm just saying my experience has been that if you express any kind of left position which falls outside of liberal media orthodoxy these days you get called a tankie, hence why I took your usage broadly.
You don't need to accuse me of gaslighting you, just a weird way to have a conversation.
Oh, now I didn't mean it that way. After telling you god knows how many times? Now suddenly I'm innocent of what you've been accusing me of?
Conversation? This has been you attacking and attacking and attacking. For something I didn't even fucking say.
I'm sorry if I've been making you feel attacked, but people use the world broadly so that's how I took your meaning in the original context. I'm not trying to goad you and I'll disengage after this.