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Anyone here played enemy territory quake wars?
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Progression systems are such a curse.
I think one of the core reasons Helldivers is having so much controversy is that it doesn't really have them. Getting to level 20 and unlocking all the core stuff is mostly an extended tutorial and after that there's just gameplay, and I don't think a lot of people know how to handle that anymore.
The main issue helldivers has is that it's just too samey. They've added new weapons in but nothing fundamentally changes gameplay much.
If instead of new weapons they were releasing new enemies and new maps that feel fundamentally different then they would have had a lot more player retention. Once you've done existing content enough times to level up you feel like you've seen/played it all (which you have).