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What is your favorite movie of all time?
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The Magnificent Seven is way better, and predates it by 80 or 90 years. Rumour has it that John Sturges was so impressed by the Seven Samurai, that he presented Kurosawa with a Colt Single Action Army Revolver and said "You have made a great movie, but it's my movie, ya dig."
(you may crucify me now.)
...80 or 90 years? You sure 'bout that?
Pret-ty sure.
Kurosawa Akira's The Seven Samurai was released in 1954. John Sturges' The Magnificent Seven was released in 1960.
So, uh, first, The Magnificent Seven was the remake, not the other way around, and second, it comes only 6 years after the inspiration, rather than close to a century. If The Magnificent Seven had been made 80 years prior to The Seven Samurai, it would have been made in 1874. ...Which would have been before some of the firearms used in the film were even invented, and only 10 years after the US Civil War.
Pre-tty sure the magnificent seven came first. Check your sources again. Kurosawa was super nervous that people would find out about his clone of an american classic, and as we all know, the US comes first
The Magnificent Seven was released on October 12, 1960.
The Seven Samurai was released in 1954, six years prior.
A number of Kurosawa films have been remade for American audiences. Take The Hidden Fortress; it was remade as Star Wars. Meanwhile, Kurosawa did take inspiration from western playwrights, such as Shakespeare's MacBeth (Throne of Blood) and King Lear (Ran).
And, BTW, I happen to absolutely love chanbara, especially and including the schlock garbage like Sleepy Eyes of Death, Zatoichi, Lady Snowblood, Lone Wolf and Cub, and especially Hanzo the Razor. Samurai film share a lot of similarities with western films, and many of the low-budget sword-fighting films were modeled after the western genre films (only with a funk and jazz soundtrack).
I think many of those old Kurosawa films are just rip offs of many 1890s John Sturges films
Right. The John Sturges that was born in 1910 was directing films in 1890, twenty years before his birth, and also pioneered color and sound films several decades prior to their patents. Cool.
You're not a very effective or amusing troll.
Finally!
Do have any idea how hard it is to make shitty joke, and then for people to take you seriously, and so you commit more to it and dig deeper with wilder and more outlandish statements, hoping that someone - anyone - would realise the farce.... only for time to tick on, and it dawns on you that people took you at face value, and that you will forever be labeled as an idiot and not as a joker.
You have redeemed my faith in others good sir, and I wholeheartedly concede that this was all nothing but a fools gambit contrived by a bored giggling moron one lazy afternoon.
Wow this is astonishingly wrong. You maybe meant John Ford who was a huge influence on Kurosawa, but he wasn’t even born until 1894 and motion pictures were not really a thing yet at that time, Trip to the Moon is 1905
Trip to the Moon can't have come out in 1905 because Wright Brothers hadn't invented NASA yet.
I think you got that backwards. Magnificent seven came out in 1960, seven samurai in 1954. It even says magnificent seven is just an adaptation of seven samuria.
nah, no chance