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Do you pronounce "Data" as "Day-ta" or "Dah-ta"? (lemmy.world)

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[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I use both. One feels more singular while the other feels more plural though I can't tell you which when you ask me. We have to sneak up on it together.

I have the same issue with "Thuh" and "Thee" for "The."

[-] Limfjorden@feddit.dk 10 points 2 weeks ago

"The" does have two pronunciations depending on if the word after it starts with a vovel sound or not. It's "Thuh" for consonants and "Thee" for vowels.

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No it's not... it's purely emphasis/stress via vowel reduction in English?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_and_vowel_reduction_in_English

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's both things, and subjected to wide variation:

Stressed Unstressed

Prevocalic /ði:/ /ði/, /ðɪ/, /ð/

Preconsonantal /ði:/, /ðʌ/ /ðə/

Stressed	Unstressed
Prevocalic	/ði:/	/ði/, /ðɪ/, /ð/
Preconsonantal	/ði:/, /ðʌ/	/ðə/

Source for those pronunciations, Wiktionary.

To complicate it further some varieties merge /ʌ/ and /ə/, or /ɪ/ and /ə/. And I'm not even taking into account varieties using a different consonant, /t θ d f v/.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ohh nice, that table helps. I felt like something was off about people sometimes using more /ði:/ than what I was taught!

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Please, i don't want to be self aware of my accent in my first language.

Also the two pronunciations of "the" noted above are different mouth shapes. "Uh" un butt versus "ee" in jeep.

[-] Limfjorden@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just going off what I learned in school in Denmark. According to lvxferre@mander.xyz it seems there is a lot more variation than I thought.

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