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[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago

And yet still when the news first broke that this happened there were some communists who insisted that this was an organic event. When will people ever learn that the US (or one of their proxies) is always behind shit like this?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago

This highlights just how infantile the idea of a spontaneous revolution is. Large portions of the western left think that you just need to have a big rally, throw out the government you don't like, and build some sort of anarcho utopia. And of course, any actually organic protests quickly fizzle the way we saw with the occupy movement and George Floyd protests. These were absolutely massive in scale, but they had no staying power. People came out shouted some slogans, and then went to back home after a few days.

The big irony here is that the US has effectively adopted a vanguardist approach to running color revolutions where they groom and fund an ideologically aligned vanguard for many years, and then use it to create an ideologically aligned movement that is able to topple the government.

[-] LeniX@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

It is as though the capitalists intuitively understand dialectical materialism and its inherent graduality when it comes to building up movements.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, the ruling class understands Marxism quite well in my opinion, and they're fighting the class war with both eyes open.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

They know how the class war goes, and they know to never admit it too loudly, as that might let the working class know they should be fighting too

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

i always felt like the occupy thing was totally manufactured as well

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

It might've been organic initially, but it quickly turned into a roach motel for leftists.

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