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Kids' Cartoon From Conservative University Claims That Slavery Was 'No Big Deal'
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I think this article( and by extension you guys) are misrepresenting the pragerU clip. All its said was at the time, slavery was prevalent across the globe and it was "no big deal" for their societies of their time.
Who is to say that we arent going to look back and treat the prison system the same way or we would classify terminal online as slavery to corporations. Obviously slavery was inhumane but the people at the time didnt see it that way.
You can't think of a segment of the population that did see it that way? The people who were enslaved, or abolitionists perhaps?
I think it was quite a big deal to the slaves, even at the time.
And also for the kingdoms that relied on selling them to stay afloat. They all ended up falling in the 19th century
I do not agree with your interpretation whatsoever, but to argue that slavery was “no big deal” at the time is also factually invalid.
A large number of people did see it as inhumane.
Also, right before that part they further normalize slavery, which often involved intermittent torture to keep them in line:
people who own slaves rarely think what they’re doing is wrong, especially because it benefits them so much. the slaves, on the other hand, rarely see it the same way.
abolitionist movements and slave revolts go back to Ancient Rome and before. Ever heard of Spartacus? wow...
How do you feel about the fact that slave labor was most certainly involved in the production of your smart phone, somewhere along the supply chain?
No lol there were abolitionists before Columbus's voyage. People have always been capable of grasping how evil it is. They intentionally chose to ignore that aspect of their perception to maximize their profits.
Well, didn't the clergy with a medieval mindset actually fight for natives' rights? Think of Bartolomé de las Casas
Oh look, the education system is already working as intended.
Child and marital rape were "no big deal" across the globe for thousands of years. Should we teach that to children as well?
Well, if we want to contextualise some periods it should. Like, imagine someone told you 40 year olds married 14 year olds without giving you the context of the period
Why may it have been considered "no big deal" at the time?
Because the people who thought that way believed that the people being enslaved were literally sub-human.
So the question is still why is it relevant in any context whether slavery was considered acceptable at the time?
It was normalised across the globe throughout human history. That is, I suppose, a valid point. Although I would say it's a pretty big deal that it was normalised across the globe throughout human history. And of course, there's more slaves today than there was during the entire period of the Atlantic slave trade, which is horrific and barely discussed.
Slavery is still rampant worldwide and is involved in the production of many goods that end up on us soil. How do you feel about your smart phone and cheap gadgets?
Is that seriously supposed to be some kind of "gotcha"?
Does that mean you believe slavery is morally justified, or did you type out that post from your typewriter? Gottem
Then I will accept that judgement. Why do we need to forgive the past for it's wrongs just out of fear for being judged ourselves?
Just to be clear, slavery is 100% legal in the United States if it is punishment for a crime. Read the 13th amendment. Many people already see the prison system as an abhorrent extension of slavery. Legally speaking, it literally is.
Also, Christopher Columbus was tried in Spain and imprisoned for his atrocities in America. There was never a point in time where slavery was unanimously accepted. Institutional racism was born because enslavement between two equal humans is so clearly wrong. Slavery was so clearly a big deal that one party needed to be dehumanized to justify it.