this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2023
303 points (98.7% liked)
Today I Learned
17812 readers
4 users here now
What did you learn today? Share it with us!
We learn something new every day. This is a community dedicated to informing each other and helping to spread knowledge.
The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:
Rules (interactive)
Rule 1- All posts must begin with TIL. Linking to a source of info is optional, but highly recommended as it helps to spark discussion.
** Posts must be about an actual fact that you have learned, but it doesn't matter if you learned it today. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.**
Rule 2- Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.
Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.
Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.
Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.
Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.
That's it.
Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.
Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.
Rule 6- Regarding non-TIL posts.
Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-TIL posts using the [META] tag on your post title.
Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.
If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.
Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.
For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.
Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.
Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.
Let everyone have their own content.
Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.
Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.
Partnered Communities
You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.
Community Moderation
For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
One of many reasons why "Human teeth look like horse teeth, that's why we should be vegan" is a dumb argument
except the argument is usually that we have canines, therefore we must eat meat.
I know, but vegan extremists have often pointed out that because our teeth are shaped more like a horse's than a lions, that we must be herbivores. Which is fucking stupid for several reasons.
One of them being that horses are opportunistic meat eaters and will eat meat when given the chance, they just merely aren't aggressive or combat suited enough to hunt for it themselves.
Another being as you said, we have canines.
Vegan extremists, you say? What other views do these extreme individuals hold?
I'm guessing it's not that we should be murdering humans for any reason.
Basically the people who say that if you use any Animal product for any reason, then you basically are no better than the people who did the Holocaust. No this isn't an exaggeration.
The kind of people who compare the Civil Rights Movement to the conditions to which pigs live in, and wonder why people think they are racist.
That first one most certainly does sound like an exaggeration, or at least an outlier. And in the context of this discussion it implies a false equivalence that anyone who thinks that our teeth look more like an herbivore's than an omnivore or carnivore's and takes from that that we should eat more vegetables, also thinks that you're as bad as hitler or a nazis for eating meat.
But maybe one of us is misunderstanding. I certainly do think that the millions of animals being killed without a justified reason is a type of Holocaust. Sure, it's not humans, but I think it's a fair conclusion to come to. Regardless of if you'd call it that, can you see how all of this unnecessary death and torture is incredibly unethical? It doesn't seem extreme to me if that's what these vegans are saying.
Secondly, do you not think there is a similarity between fighting for the civil rights of humans and fighting for the rights of animals? I don't think that's a racist statement at all, and you know what? I think anyone who says it is racist is either actively trying to undermine the argument with adhominem or is simply too dumb to realize that's what the person they heard say it originally was trying to do.
Cite your sources.