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So let me get this straight..........the NKs blew up roads and rail lines on their own territory that could be used by their forces to move south in the event of a war?
That's some brilliant stategerizing there, you betcha.
It hurt itself in its confusion!
It's almost as if NK doesn't want war. Weird how they took a defensive posture in response to invasion of their territory by a country backed by the most war hungry country in the history of humanity.
What the fuck are you going on about?
Probably the korean war / imperial invasion.
Invasion by drones flying over their capital. It's in the article.
Then I guess the North invaded the South when it dropped garbage balloons on it.
That was in response to South Korea dropping propaganda in the North. North Korea complained that the propaganda drops were littering the countryside with trash.
I'm not sure why what it was in response to matters. If a drone over another country's land is an invasion, so are a bunch of balloons full of trash.
What's the difference?
You don't see the difference between a drone and a balloon?
A drone is a weapon of war. A drone can collect surveillance, or even deliver a payload to a target.
But even if you want to consider a balloon an invasion, the South still invaded first when it aerial dropped propaganda.
Sounds like balloons fit those descriptions to me...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation_balloon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Balloon_weaponry
Wait until this guy learns about South Korea having satellites. It does seem the only reason you would blow up your own roads and railways would be if you were worried about an immediate invasion though, otherwise why would you not just rig it up and blow it when needed? Could even use it as a defensive tactic.
First of all, I doubt that's the kind of balloon that was carrying trash.
Secondly, spy balloons were a thing back in the 1950s because satellites didn't exist yet. No one would use a balloon for warfare these days, because you can't steer a balloon.
What even is your point? If you think Washington was justified in freaking out over a weather balloon but Pyongyang was not justified in freaking out over frickin' drones, you're not making sense.
Ah, so these are (maybe, because you doubt it) not the right kind of balloons to count as an invasion.
This is quite the very narrow range of necessary characteristics for something that isn't doing any attacking to count as an invasion.
Especially when that drone didn't even drop any garbage. And, of course, you have no idea if that drone was doing any intel gathering or if it was armed.
As for what my point is, I'm just using your logic. A drone that doesn't do any attacking over North Korea is an invasion, therefore garbage balloons, which are doing more of an "attack" than that drone, are an invasion.
It seems to me this is more an issue of you liking North Korea and not liking South Korea.
I don’t care if garbage balloons count as an invasion or not. Even if they do count, South Korea still invaded first.
South Korea does not have control over its own military. The South Korean military is commanded and controlled by the United States, and North Korea is right to see that as a threat.
South Korea asked the United States to have operational control of their military back, and the United States said no.
South Korea is objectively a puppet and colony of the United States. If you do not have control of your own military, you are a puppet.
And I’m not surprised to see you defending the West’s puppet, as disgusting as that is.
Every American owes an apology to North Korea for what America did to them.
There will be a reckoning one day. One day Americans will be taught about what they did, and it will weigh on the conscience of American schoolchildren, just like all the other American atrocities.
Ah, so now we've gone from "it's not an invasion" to "they did it first."
Also, this has nothing to do with America, so I'm not even sure why you're bringing it up. Is the U.S. the only country that matters in the world?
I said that several comments ago.
I said: "But even if you want to consider a balloon an invasion, the South still invaded first when it aerial dropped propaganda."
My first response to you was about how North Korea was acting in response to what South Korea did first.
And my first response to you is that both would be invasions by your own logic.
But let's also look at your "they did it first, therefore they are in the wrong" argument:
Hamas has been around since 1987 and has been firing rockets into Israel the entire time. Even if that doesn't count, based on an agreed criteria that a balloon that has the ability to be used as a weapon counts as an invasion, Hamas used incendiary balloons on Israel in 2018.
Therefore, based on your logic, Israel was in the right to invade Gaza, what with Gaza being under Hamas control at the time.
Do you believe Israel was in the right?
Minor airspace violations are not an invasion.
I remember the entire United States freaking out when a weather balloon from China went off course.
I think they shot down three more weather balloons, including some kids’ school project.
And that wasn’t even a drone that was powered and could be steered.
(But maybe Biden just needed a distraction from his poll numbers that week.)
To be clear, the accusation from the North is that the drones were there to drop propaganda, not bombs. The South denies it, but let's assume it's true for a moment. Why is that a bigger provocation than the balloons full of actual human shit that the North has been floating over the border?
You mean the shit balloons?
Why don't you move to North Korea, tankie?
People abandoning places instead of improving them resulted in the US, the most destructive single country in human history by every measure.
And you consider North Korea an improvement?
No, I consider a defensive action from north Korea to be a defensive action from north Korea. It is better than the US, but it being an improvement would imply they were ever on the same path. The best the US could ever hope for is some states seceding and forming a proper country.
To be clear - you consider North Korea to be a better country to live in, with a better government and a better standard of living, than the US?
To be clear I think north Korea is a better country morally, with ideals the world should strive towards.
Hey buddy, just wanna let you know you’re pretty stupid and you might need to get that condition checked out by your doctor.
This has to be one of the craziest takes I've seen on this site so far.